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Old 08-08-2018, 12:28 PM
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In the Kaballah it teaches that the Sefirot are ten modes or attributes through which God manifests Himself. Hinduism teaches that the charkas are 7 vortexes of energy lying across seven different points on a person's spinal column. The Kaballah is extraordinarily like the ancient Indian system. Although originally an imbalanced patriarchal system, the Kaballah attempts to achieve balance through the emphasis placed upon the idea of the Shekinah or female mate of God. This is like the placement of Nature in relationship to that of Spirit, the differentiated as opposed to the undifferentiated, and/or the resolution of the apparent dichotomy between earth and heaven through the Intermediator of the divine human body, Adam Kadmon (Quadmon), which is considered by the kaballists to be the energetic template of the spiritual man (or embodied spirit).

The Kundalini Spirit Imitating the Holy Ghost is a weaponized concept from deists denominations. Andrew Strom; and Ecumenical Christians like him, believes that large parts of the global charismatic movement is demonic. I remember when my first encounter with a Church of Christ patron. I had just been filled with the Holy Ghost over thirty years ago and I was telling everybody about my experience. After sharing it with this fellow he replied, “People who talk in tongues are possessed with a devil!” I literally wept all the way home from my visit. So this kind of spiritual attack is nothing new under the sun.

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: 30 (Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.)

I have heard some ask what is blaspheming the Holy Ghost? It tells you in 30th verse of Mark that blaspheming is when someone calls the Holyghost a unclean spirit. These are supposititious believers who follow the Billy Sunday; “Ask the Lord to come into your heart,” genre. Spewing their indoctrinated diatribes of spiritual matters they do not understand.

2Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption.

Is there a counterfeit Spirit that tries to attach itself into congregations and emulate the Holy Spirit? Absolutely, and we have an example in Acts.

Acts 16: 16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: 17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, (These men are the servants of the most high God), which shew unto us the way of salvation. 18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

We have instruction in the scripture to discern spiritual counterfeits. We know there are witches and sorceries that will try to subvert our fellowships. The Holyghost does everything in order and ministers should have discernment if they see otherwise.

1Corinthians 14:32 Let all things be done decently and in order.

1Corinthians 14:40 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

But this association with the Holy Spirit with Kundalini is the darkest indictment against those who resist the miraculous movement of our Father’s Spirit. It is designed to project spirit filled believers as Kundalini reprobates and to scare people into fleeing back to their ecumenical church system. Our Father knows the sheep from the goats, but you are on dangerous ground when you compare the infilling of the Holyghost with an unclean spirit.

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Old 08-08-2018, 12:35 PM
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Re: Kundalini, snake, divination ��

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If you are lifting material from another source, you need to post the source link for the material you are lifting. Taking information from another website without proper sourcing is called PLAGIARISM.
http://www.rainbowbody.net/Ongwhehonwhe/cabchak.htm Cabala and the Chakras

There really is no need to scream. I did not know that post were considered a bibliography were you need citations of articles, websites, books or journals. I did use this from a article that I read from a website above, because it fit the similarities between the Kabbalah and Hindu teachings. I only have so much time during lunch to post a response. If this was a thesis paper for a grade then I would have listed the source. If I am writing an article or a book, then I would have listed sources. If citations are a requirement for AFF posters, then I would be happy to oblige. Hope this suffices your ascetic academia pureness for posts
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Old 08-08-2018, 12:38 PM
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Re: Kundalini, snake, divination ��

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http://www.rainbowbody.net/Ongwhehonwhe/cabchak.htm Cabala and the Chakras

There really is no need to scream. I did not know that post were considered a bibliography were you need citations of articles, websites, books or journals. I did use this from a article that I read from a website above, because it fit the similarities between the Kabbalah and Hindu teachings. I only have so much time during lunch to post a response. If this was a thesis paper for a grade then I would have listed the source. If I am writing an article or a book, then I would have listed sources. If citations are a requirement for AFF posters, then I would be happy to oblige. Hope this suffices your ascetic academia pureness for posts
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all that is needed is a link for an internet source,

but if you are quoting a author verbatim then you need to reference the book, author you are quoting from.
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Old 08-08-2018, 12:43 PM
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Re: Kundalini, snake, divination ��

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Ok question time: is this the baptism of the Holy Ghost?
You may want to read and understand the full context of my short post.

Is there a counterfeit Spirit that tries to attach itself into congregations and emulate the Holy Spirit? Absolutely, and we have an example in Acts.

We have instruction in the scripture to discern spiritual counterfeits. We know there are witches and sorceries that will try to subvert our fellowships. The Holyghost does everything in order and ministers should have discernment if they see otherwise.


If you want to demean a movement then provide a counter culture which makes a mockery of the real Body of Christ. This is how our adversary works.

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Old 08-08-2018, 12:52 PM
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all that is needed is a link for an internet source,

but if you are quoting a author verbatim then you need to reference the book, author you are quoting from.
I have written many articles and well aware of bibliographic etiquette. I appreciate the guidance from posters on the posting etiquette that is required for this board. I will be happy to comply.

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Re: Kundalini, snake, divination ��

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Ok question time: is this the baptism of the Holy Ghost?
I don't know how others will wish to answer this question. However, I will only answer this. I sincerely desire to be cautious when judging a manifestation that might be the Holy Spirit. This doesn't mean that I am not suspicious or have my doubts.

So, in light of my heart above, in light of knowing that Hagin's doctrine is not Apostolic, in light that I know he embraces "holy laughter" and other spiritual manifestations such as "barking like a dog", and in light of what level of spiritual discernment I have, I'd say that it is relatively safe to answer that this is not the Holy Spirit.

Others can answer as they wish. However, given the nature of the sin of "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit", I seek caution in judging spiritual manifestations that are said to be the Holy Spirit. I feel it better to say, "I don't know", or, "I have my doubts", than to become too comfortable in discounting what might prove to be a unique move of God.

Here's a video of the kundalini spirit in a Hindu worship service... one cannot help but see the similarity between this and some Apostolic Pentecostal worship services. Does this mean that such worship services are not of God? Or does it mean that Satan is a counterfeiter of true experiences in the Holy Spirit?




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Re: Kundalini, snake, divination ��

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http://www.rainbowbody.net/Ongwhehonwhe/cabchak.htm Cabala and the Chakras

There really is no need to scream. I did not know that post were considered a bibliography were you need citations of articles, websites, books or journals. I did use this from a article that I read from a website above, because it fit the similarities between the Kabbalah and Hindu teachings. I only have so much time during lunch to post a response. If this was a thesis paper for a grade then I would have listed the source. If I am writing an article or a book, then I would have listed sources. If citations are a requirement for AFF posters, then I would be happy to oblige.
I wasn't screaming, as the post was not in ALL CAPS.

Regardless of the rule on AFF for citing sources, it's dishonest and unethical for a person to lift something from another source, change a couple words, and then insert it in between their thoughts making it appear that it is all their thoughts. You shouldn't need a rule to know this is dishonest and wrong. You didn't even use basic quotation marks.

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Hope this suffices your ascetic academia pureness for posts.
Is it too much to ask for people to not be dishonest when lifting from websites and trying to pass the info off as their own?

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Re: Kundalini, snake, divination ��

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I wasn't screaming, as the post was not in ALL CAPS.

Regardless of the rule on AFF for citing sources, it's dishonest and unethical for a person to lift something from another source, change a couple words, and then insert it in between their thoughts making it appear that it is all their thoughts. You shouldn't need a rule to know this is dishonest and wrong. You didn't even use basic quotation marks.


Is it too much to ask for people to not be dishonest when lifting from websites and trying to pass the info off as their own?
I've not posted sources before. Generally it's because I'm pressed for time and I feel that I can't really word it in a manner better than what was written. I appreciate you keeping us on our toes ndavid.

What if one just copies and pastes something they've written in another post years back? Or, what if they copy something they've written in another post and modify it for the current discussion?
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