The Temptation of Jesus - Page 2

Evang.Benincasa · #11 06-24-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

The temptation was lagitament but would have never been successful. Think of it this way, if an ant picks up a piece of grass and attempts to destroy a brick house he could never succeed. The ant gave his best shot but he would not be able.
The same with Jesus, he was the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. His sinless life was foreknown, it would bave been absolutely impossible for the Messiah to have committed sin.
Not to mention he was God and in him is no darkness.

Awesome!!!!

Don't know what lagitament temptation is but the rest of what you said was a home run.

Old Paths · #12 06-24-2018, 06:43 PM

James 1:13.. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:..
James 1:14.. But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed...
James 1:15.. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death...

Bottom line for Jesus to have sinned, He would have had to have LUST. No lust, no sin. Humans that sin, sin because the temptation originates within them (own lust). The temptation of Jesus was external, not internal. Jesus was just as much God in the flesh as he was in the Creation..."God cannot be tempted with evil". To teach that Jesus who was the eternal God in flesh could/would sin attempts to do damage to the Godhead.

consapente89 · #13 06-24-2018, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths

James 1:13.. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:..
James 1:14.. But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed...
James 1:15.. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death...

Bottom line for Jesus to have sinned, He would have had to have LUST. No lust, no sin. Humans that sin, sin because the temptation originates within them (own lust). The temptation of Jesus was external, not internal. Jesus was just as much God in the flesh as he was in the Creation..."God cannot be tempted with evil". To teach that Jesus who was the eternal God in flesh could/would sin attempts to do damage to the Godhead.

This is an excellent point and has been on my mind quite a bit.

consapente89 · #14 06-24-2018, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

what does this mean?

The devil came to Jesus in the wilderness and tempted him in 3 areas. Lust of the eye, lust of the flesh and the pride of life. I believe that the devil endeavored to tempt Jesus, but as Old Paths pointed out, temptation is conceived by an inward drawing or lust. Jesus was the second Adam, fully God and fully man yet without the Adamic sin nature. Even though the devil tempted him, it doesn’t seem in harmony with scripture or his nature as God to believe that he was actually drawn toward sin.

houston · #15 06-24-2018, 08:56 PM

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For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

I see what you are saying. So, how was the temptation of Jesus real?

When I was a youth I was told by one of the ministers that if Jesus sinned God would have had to come up with another plan. That made absolutely no sense to me. But, I guess, in his mind Jesus had the capacity to sin.

houston · #16 06-24-2018, 08:58 PM

Dumb question, I know. It’s the metformin.

consapente89 · #17 06-24-2018, 09:02 PM

I think the temptation of Jesus was as real as Adam’s temptation. Not sure that Adam was actually tempted within himself to rebel against God. Eve was tempted and deceived and Adam follows suite. Adam did not have a sin nature at the time so sin did not appeal to him.

houston · #18 06-24-2018, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by consapente89

I think the temptation of Jesus was as real as Adam’s temptation. Not sure that Adam was actually tempted within himself to rebel against God. Eve was tempted and deceived and Adam follows suite. Adam did not have a sin nature at the time so sin did not appeal to him.

I’ve never looked at it like that. So, Eve also did not have a sin nature -until Adam sinned. Different thread there. But, begs to be asked, how could someone sin without a sin nature? Follow up question, could Jesus have sinned?

consapente89 · #19 06-24-2018, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by houston

I’ve never looked at it like that. So, Eve also did not have a sin nature -until Adam sinned. Different thread there. But, begs to be asked, how could someone sin without a sin nature? Follow up question, could Jesus have sinned?

Eve was beguiled. Adam made a choice to follow her. Sin did not enter the human race through Eve but through Adam.

I honestly don’t know if Jesus could have sinned. Many teach that he could not have. They might be right. I tend to think that he could have made a choice to sin, but it was not his nature to do so. If he would have sinned, he would have died. Just as he gave up the ghost on the cross. May be way off, but that’s my thought process at this point.

consapente89 · #20 06-24-2018, 09:13 PM

I certainly don’t believe Jesus walked around in a constant state of struggle with temptation. If an immodest woman walked in front of him, I don’t believe he had to quickly turn his head to avoid impure thoughts. It just wasn’t in him to sin. He wasn’t drawn toward it as mankind under the curse of sin is.

The temptation that he endured was for a purpose, and that was to be an example to us. In his earthly life, he NEVER used any power that is not available to the church today.