Young Man At Church About To Be Homeless... - Page 2

BuckeyeBukaroo · #11 06-12-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

If the guy is a bum then shouldn't the church put him out? If not then the church should do something. If he's a faithful member, of a church that won't help out at all, then I'd suggest he find another church.

Which is why I really think I should do something to help him because I do not want to see him go and I do want to see him grow and mature in Christ. He isn't a bum. He just isn't motivated. For example, when I spoke with him I asked him about filing for unemployment. He said he didn't do it yet. I asked when was he planning to do it. He said, "not sure..." I don't even think he was fired. I think his contract expired or the plant just laid people off or something to that effect. I don't think he should leave the church. He just is not doing all that he can do to help his own situation. The church has limited funds and I agree with the church's decision to, as a church, to not step in and help this young man financially.

Aquila · #12 06-12-2018, 10:01 AM

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Yes he is a faithful member. Yes he is living for Christ. As far as I know he doesn't ask people for money for stuff. He is just not as motivated as he could be when it comes to work. He could have been had another job or he could just go to school or trade school-- but he hasn't done any of these things.

I think Esaias had an excellent suggestion in his last post as to how the church might help in his immediate circumstances.

But the root of the problem has to be addressed.

Might this kid need some life coaching? If he doesn't have any drive, dreams, vision, or passion, he's going to drift and daily life will seem meaningless. Certainly someone can help him find his calling whether it might require going to school, being mentored in the trades, serving in any of the numerous fields of service, technology, or even ministry. I believe God has a calling and purpose for us all. When that calling and purpose is realized, pursued, and made a reality there is passion, drive, and joy in the journey.

What's the old saying? "Find something you love to do, and you'll never work a day in your life." What would he love to do? Helping to get him on that road could very well be a long term answer.

I know I don't know the kid personally, and that I could be way off. But those are some thoughts that came to mind.

BuckeyeBukaroo · #13 06-12-2018, 10:02 AM

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the comment I deleted was that "when the prodigal came to himself he returned to his Father."

I deleted it because this young man is saved, but on the other hand the scripture says, if you don't work you don't eat.

He has several options and apparently is choosing to exercise none of them.

Amanah · #14 06-12-2018, 10:04 AM

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He has several options and apparently is choosing to exercise none of them.

if you really want to help him, offer to employ him a bit, assuming you have things you could have him help you with.

BuckeyeBukaroo · #15 06-12-2018, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I think Esaias had an excellent suggestion in his last post as to how the church might help in his immediate circumstances.

But the root of the problem has to be addressed.

Might this kid need some life coaching? If he doesn't have any drive, dreams, vision, or passion, he's going to drift and daily life will seem meaningless. Certainly someone can help him find his calling whether it might require going to school, being mentored in the trades, serving in any of the numerous fields of service, technology, or even ministry. I believe God has a calling and purpose for us all. When that calling and purpose is realized, pursued, and made a reality there is passion, drive, and joy in the journey.

What's the old saying? "Find something you love to do, and you'll never work a day in your life." What would he love to do. Helping to get him on that road could very well be a long term answer.

I know I don't know the kid personally, and that I could be way off. But those are some thoughts that came to mind.

I am sure he needs some kind of life coaching, but he has been around the church and other godly men for quite some time (since his teen years). Its not like he has no clue about life. Besides, the most immediate need is shelter.

BuckeyeBukaroo · #16 06-12-2018, 10:08 AM

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if you really want to help him, offer to employ him a bit, assuming you have things you could have him help you with.

I don't want to carry him financially. I don't want to become his financial crutch. He should just get a job. I am inclined to let him stay with us, but that is not an option either.

Amanah · #17 06-12-2018, 10:08 AM

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I am sure he needs some kind of life coaching, but he has been around the church and other godly men for quite some time (since his teen years). Its not like he has no clue about life. Besides, the most immediate need is shelter.

salvation army or some other homeless shelter, that may be an awesome life lesson on why it's good to be motivated.

BuckeyeBukaroo · #18 06-12-2018, 10:10 AM

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salvation army or some other homeless shelter, that may be an awesome life lesson on why it's good to be motivated.

You're right. I just don't want to lose him, sis. I can see this potential train wreck happening a mile away.

Amanah · #19 06-12-2018, 10:15 AM

I tried helping a young woman once, took her to goodwill and bought her clothes, took her to salvation army so she would have a place to stay. She had problems everywhere she went, there was always a reason she didn't want to follow the rules. She could not keep a job, always some conflict with an employer. You can't help people who don't want to help themselves.

Evang.Benincasa · #20 06-12-2018, 10:16 AM

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There is a young man, not even 25 yet, who is about to lose his apartment.

Praying for your friend.

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He lost his job and he says he has not been able to find work.

Where do you all live? He is in his early 20s. Unless he is a felon or you all live in Peapatch nowhere, he can find something to gather coin.

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I don't believe that he wasn't able to find work.

Goodnight, first big indicator.

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He is saved,

Looks like he needs a slight reboot.

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but I believe he is irresponsible and a bit lazy to be honest.

Goodnight, second indicator.

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I don't want to see him homeless.

Well, looks like you are the first concerned citizen to set up to plate. Give him three hots and a cot, and strat mentoring.

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It will just compound his issues with trying to re-establish stability.

BB, we are here, you are there. You have already posted enough to indicate that this kid hasn't a good skill set. People can be called Christians yet lack Character, and people can be real Characters and no Christians.

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I don't think it looks good for the church for him to be homeless either.

That's too bad you feel that way. Yet, the elders and the church family should immediately turn around and ask YOU want is YOUR plan? Anyway, the ministry of the church where you attend KNOW far more about the situation than you and I. We on this forum can offer little to brainstorm a situation which we know less than zero. This boy has a pastor, an eldership he can get some teaching from. If the lad had Jesus preach, and David play his harp on what he needed to do he might just yes, yes, yes, them to death. But still go and do as he very well pleases. We don't know, but the ministry in your church should be quite capable. If you don't think they are moving fast enough or doing what you believe should be done? Then you might just become even a greater obstacle to how strategically God and the eldership would like to help. Hey, this forum is jam pack and full of horror stories on how people got offended by how their ministry chose to help someone out. How the well wishing do gooders jumped in behind the elder's back. Only to really get that showball rolling towards the abyss. Church family just doesn't know what is really going on at times, and unleashes the devil when they allow sappy emotions to lead instead of the Holy Ghost.

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Some would see and then say, "What good is a church that lets its members become homeless without helping them."

If YOU are worried about what outsiders and others say about your church, then you might as well go home. Good God from Zion!

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The misses doesn't think it is a good idea for him to stay with us and I am really unsure as to what I should do-- if I should do any thing at all.

Your wife is smarter than you.

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I am not his Pastor,

Well, there you go. END OF STORY.

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but I have ministered to this young man numerous times. What would you do?

Listen to your wife and pastor.