A Monumental Problem In America:

[Esaias]

Johnson, who is black, voted for Barack Obama in 2008. He drove from Minnesota’s Twin Cities to meet Carson on Saturday morning. But it was a Confederate flag symbol on his finger and two large rebel flags flanking his Ford F-150 truck that truly set him apart.
It's no sign of hate, he told The Des Moines Register after the event, but a symbol of states' rights and freedom from the federal government.
“It does not stand for racism,” said Johnson, 41, noting he grew up in Columbia, S.C. “The Confederate battle flag is symbolic of the fight that the soldiers put up from the South to protect populous sovereignty.”

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...flag/74550918/

[Esaias]

[Aquila]

Let's consider that there was a monument to Hitler that was erected by the local German club back in the 1930's. It is placed dead center in the local community park. And lets say the local Jewish community (which didn't exist in this small town in the 1930's) is deeply offended and wish it to be removed from the park where their children play.

One can offer dozens of logical arguments based on the importance of history, the importance of German heritage, and even Hitler's contribution to history. But....

What would be a truly Christian response? To argue over the need to "memorialize" Hitler? God forbid.

I can't see any other logical answer than to have it moved to a museum and perhaps replaced with a monument representing unity and peace. Yes, the local skinheads will lose their minds and protest. But there can be no other solution given the nature of what Hitler actually did.

General E. Lee was a traitor to his country. He engaged, wounded, and even killed Union soldiers. Why? To militarily support the Confederacy, a confederacy of states whose economies were largely dependent upon the slave trade. A rebellion. A confederacy that was the antithesis of Union principles. Principles that still guide us today. His contribution to history should be noted, but not honored. The statue should be in a museum. It shouldn't be honored in the local community park as though he was some hero. He's a vanquished foe. A defeated enemy of the United States.

It isn't a black thing or a white thing. It's principle.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Johnson, who is black, voted for Barack Obama in 2008. He drove from Minnesota’s Twin Cities to meet Carson on Saturday morning. But it was a Confederate flag symbol on his finger and two large rebel flags flanking his Ford F-150 truck that truly set him apart.
It's no sign of hate, he told The Des Moines Register after the event, but a symbol of states' rights and freedom from the federal government.
“It does not stand for racism,” said Johnson, 41, noting he grew up in Columbia, S.C. “The Confederate battle flag is symbolic of the fight that the soldiers put up from the South to protect populous sovereignty.”

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...flag/74550918/

You can't even see what you're doing can you? lol

I know it's unintentional. But it's amazing that you can't see it.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I'd like to see his face if the South actually rose again. He'd not be playing with the fire he's playing with in these pictures.

The spirits behind the rebel flag are rebellion, racism, and hate. It is the flag of an enemy confederacy.

It amazes me that men will condemn beards as representing rebellion... but not the rebel flag.

You know, I have a friend who sincerely wishes aliens would come down and take over the world. And he's thoroughly convinced in his mind that they'd think he is special enough not to be one of the billions of human beings they'd choose to eat. LOL

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Let's consider that there was a monument to Hitler that was erected by the local German club back in the 1930's. It is placed dead center in the local community park. And lets say the local Jewish community (which didn't exist in this small town in the 1930's) is deeply offended and wish it to be removed from the park where their children play.

One can offer dozens of logical arguments based on the importance of history, the importance of German heritage, and even Hitler's contribution to history. But....

What would be a truly Christian response? To argue over the need to "memorialize" Hitler? God forbid.

I can't see any other logical answer than to have it moved to a museum and perhaps replaced with a monument representing unity and peace. Yes, the local skinheads will lose their minds and protest. But there can be no other solution given the nature of what Hitler actually did.

General E. Lee was a traitor to his country. He engaged, wounded, and even killed Union soldiers. Why? To militarily support the Confederacy, a confederacy of states whose economies were largely dependent upon the slave trade. A rebellion. A confederacy that was the antithesis of Union principles. Principles that still guide us today. His contribution to history should be noted, but not honored. The statue should be in a museum. It shouldn't be honored in the local community park as though he was some hero. He's a vanquished foe. A defeated enemy of the United States.

It isn't a black thing or a white thing. It's principle.

yawn

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I'd like to see his face if the South actually rose again. He'd not be playing with the fire he's playing with in these pictures.

The spirits behind the rebel flag are rebellion, racism, and hate. It is the flag of an enemy confederacy.

It amazes me that men will condemn beards as representing rebellion... but not the rebel flag.

You know, I have a friend who sincerely wishes aliens would come down and take over the world. And he's thoroughly convinced in his mind that they'd think he is special enough not to be one of the billions of human beings they'd choose to eat. LOL

You have said allot of insane things on AFF, but this one takes the cake. You can cite not one thing in our Constitution that forbids the people of a State to withdraw their membership from a voluntary Union of States. Furthermore, if a southern confederacy was reconstituted today, most likely a black conservative like Herman Cain or Alan West would be its President. Take your anti-southern communist bigotry elsewhere.

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