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Old 06-18-2007, 10:46 AM
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If a person is really sincere God will send him a preacher preaching truth the Book of Acts gives those examples. Try the Eunuch in the desert.
You see this is one thing I cannot seem to defend very well. Its the fact that there is only a few sincere people in this world. And those and only those are the ones who have made it to the right church. You can't even say Pentecostal church anymore because some of those are now supporting TV.

AKA Deltaguitars church. So now we are narrowed even more.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:38 AM
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"Is there any circumstance ..."

Again I ask, IS God able?
ahh the infamous "loop hole"

yet another looking for what they can get away with and still make heaven.

tightrope walkers cant get good life insurance.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:05 PM
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OK, so those who are genuinely sincere have OP connections?
The genuinely sincere have connections with God who will send them a Jesus name preacher or saint.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:13 PM
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ahh the infamous "loop hole"

yet another looking for what they can get away with and still make heaven.

tightrope walkers cant get good life insurance.
I am not personally looking for a loophole. I have already experienced. Thank you Jesus.

But what about the others? Eply says you'll find a Jesus name preacher. But it seems that millions haven't. Does that make them not sincere?
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ahh the infamous "loop hole"

yet another looking for what they can get away with and still make heaven.

tightrope walkers cant get good life insurance.
Loophole? Is there a back door? Ferd, very church has them... children and those with diminished mental capacity etc. CAN GOD SAVE THEM?

Is he not bound by his word?

If he deems it so, can God see a sincere heart that loves him and save through his work on the cross in spite of imperfect understanding on the part of the believer??
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:43 PM
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Our obligation is to tell the things that we find in the Word. I long ago left the death-bed confessions and what-ifs, and loopholes to the Lord.

I just preach the Gospel and it's proper response as given in the Word. Beyond that, who am I to judge the eternal destination of a soul?

Kutless, even if one believed that a person was saved at confession and/or repentance, what happens to a truly retarded or handicapped person?

The bottom line is that JESUS is the only Saviour of the world. He will judge all things, not me. Thank God!

A while back my friend Coonskinner relayed a powerful thought to me. There are some things God will not share with anyone - even me. He won't share the firstfruits, His glory, or His vengeance.

I like that thought. God is a merciful and JUST God.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:59 PM
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I don't see this a s a "loophole" at all,
it speaks to me about the sovereignty of God, especially in regards to those who love Jesus but have a different experience than our own.
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:24 PM
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Our obligation is to tell the things that we find in the Word. I long ago left the death-bed confessions and what-ifs, and loopholes to the Lord.

I just preach the Gospel and it's proper response as given in the Word. Beyond that, who am I to judge the eternal destination of a soul?

Kutless, even if one believed that a person was saved at confession and/or repentance, what happens to a truly retarded or handicapped person?

The bottom line is that JESUS is the only Saviour of the world. He will judge all things, not me. Thank God!

A while back my friend Coonskinner relayed a powerful thought to me. There are some things God will not share with anyone - even me. He won't share the firstfruits, His glory, or His vengeance.

I like that thought. God is a merciful and JUST God.
PP great words.. I have also recorded what Coonskinner told you. It speaks volumes to me.

But I do have another question. While this is satifactory to you and I based of experiential evidence, are we not also expected to give a theological answer as well? Meaning...the use of scripture and logic?

Don't mean to sound harsh but saying "I'm not the judge" is hardly much of a defense of our doctrine. In some ways it also allows for us to skirt right around the issue all together.
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:37 PM
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PP great words.. I have also recorded what Coonskinner told you. It speaks volumes to me.

But I do have another question. While this is satifactory to you and I based of experiential evidence, are we not also expected to give a theological answer as well? Meaning...the use of scripture and logic?

Don't mean to sound harsh but saying "I'm not the judge" is hardly much of a defense of our doctrine. In some ways it also allows for us to skirt right around the issue all together.

Our theology is sound.

The proper response to the Gospel is found in Acts 2:38. That should satisfy anyone's questions.
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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Our theology is sound.

The proper response to the Gospel is found in Acts 2:38. That should satisfy anyone's questions.
if you don't want to talk about it just say so brother.
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