Is It Possible? Is It Probable?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

He knows what he can do.

Bro., if he believes one is lost if one does not experience all of Acts 2:38 then your option is not what he knows he must do.

[Jermyn Davidson]

But that scripture has always presented the Holy Ghost as a Promise-- The Promise.

Besides, Acts 2:38 said the same thing back then as it does today.

What happened to the spirit of love and the focus on the Kingdom that drove our forefathers to establish the UPCI in the first place?

The two Pentecostal Apostolic interpretations of that scripture never changed.

Brothers and sisters changed.

Brothers got jealous, envious, and sloppy.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Will someone please let DKB know of this thread?

He knows what he can do.

[votivesoul]

The basic statement of faith for the UPCI has changed little sense its inception, when Brother Witherspoon first wrote it, as a way to accommodate the "One-stepper" population in the PCI.

The key portion was that even though obeying Acts 2:38 would be considered the doctrine of full salvation, that they would all strive to maintain the unity of the Spirit and would not allow contention between brethren to disunify of the Body.

Here it is:

The basic and fundamental doctrine of this organization shall be the Bible standard of full salvation, which is repentance, baptism in water by immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.

We shall endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit until we all come into the unity of the faith, at the same time admonishing all brethren that they shall not contend for their different views to the disunity of the body.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Pentecostal Apostolic Identity includes "One-Steppers".

Pentecostal Apostolic history in America includes "One-Steppers".

If not for the Grace of God in His using of, " One-Steppers", there would not be a UPCI organization.

Most preachers who leave the UPCI right now, do so because of their Holy Ghost-given CONVICTION of a "One-Stepper" presentation of the Gospel.

He has an awesome opportunity in front of him.

He could be very influential in righting a wrong and setting the UPCI on a very strong path forward.

Do you think there should be the same thing for the Assemblies of God, out of which many Oneness brethren departed/were expunged around 1914 after Bell's push at their General Conference to ratify the org as Trinitarian?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Do you think there should be the same thing for the Assemblies of God, out of which many Oneness brethren departed/were expunged around 1914 after Bell's push at their General Conference to ratify the org as Trinitarian?

Simply, no.
It's not the same.

The A/G was not built as an organization that accommodated the Oneness and Trinitarian views of the Godhead.

However, the UPCI was formed as an organization of brothers and sisters who shared the same conviction of baptism in Jesus Name and the Godhead.

The UPCI was formed with FULL KNOWLEDGE that their brothers and sisters did not see eye-to-eye on every thing but there was enough for them to unite around in order to reach the globe with the Gospel of Christ.


Frankly, there would not have been a UPCI if not for the PCI and the PAJC uniting.


The ungodly breach is almost several decades old now. The UPCI is losing preachers every year over issues that did not obstruct the love and unity in force and mission before-- when the UPCI forefathers laid the foundation for the UPCI.

I'll say it again, if the formation of the UPCI was the WILL OF GOD, then that breach we're discussing now was UNGODLY.

DKB can repair that breach.

[LifeGuide]

IMO...never going to happen. I think you're making a wrong assumption. The UPCI is actually growing. While some ministers leave, their growth is outpacing the loss. And quite frankly, as has been stated in other posts, you would have been hard-pressed to tell the difference in a "one-stepper" and a "three-stepper" 70 years ago.

From another angle, as the world becomes more and more hostile to believers. I think you're going to see walls come down. As people around the world have experienced for years. Should it become illegal to preach the Word and gather together. When folks are invited to an illegal prayer meeting. They won't be asking a litany of doctrinal questions but rather joining in a desperate prayer for God to show up. Sounds kind of New Testament.

[Esaias]

Just think how much we could get done for God if we just did away with ALL doctrinal divisions! Why, we could grow, grow, GROW!

[LifeGuide]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Just think how much we could get done for God if we just did away with ALL doctrinal divisions! Why, we could grow, grow, GROW!

I apologize for doing a poor job of conveying my thoughts. I'm also not a regular forum poster. A bit sleep deprived with a sick little girl. I def didn't suggest doctrinal compromise. I happen to have the opinion that it's Gods plan for us to take The Truth everywhere. Not to be in hiding or intimidated by every wind that blows. Paul would have never been found on mars hill had he taken that approach. Just my 2 cents.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by LifeGuide

I apologize for doing a poor job of conveying my thoughts. I'm also not a regular forum poster. A bit sleep deprived with a sick little girl. I def didn't suggest doctrinal compromise. I happen to have the opinion that it's Gods plan for us to take The Truth everywhere. Not to be in hiding or intimidated by every wind that blows. Paul would have never been found on mars hill had he taken that approach. Just my 2 cents.

Praying the girl recovers swiftly.