Poll...Do you read books/articles on the Godhead

[votivesoul]

I've read most of the standard for the Oneness position (Bernard, Dulle, French, Foster, J.N. Anderson [his blog, until he was injured in a car accident] and a bunch more I've since forgotten.). I've read quite a few Trinitarian authors, but not a formal treatise on the doctrine of the Trinity, apart from Lewis's [u]Mere Christianity[/i]. These have been more general in scope and topic.

I've also read Bart Ehrman's How Jesus Became God, which, while not either a Trinitarian or Oneness account of the Godhead, does present information related to and about the Godhead as it pertains to Jesus.

I've also read a few different Bible encyclopedia's various entries on the subject. There's also blog I check into now and again, of a Oneness Teach called www.153greatfish.website. There's a lot of different things there, but a number of articles and videos are on the Godhead/Christology.

[Michael The Disciple]

I have read The God Of Two Testaments by Robert Graves.

God In Christ Jesus by John Patterson.

If You Know These Things by Elder Drysdale.

Is Jesus In The Godhead by Gordon Mcgee.

Probably some other ones I cant remember off hand. I have read many short internet articles on the topic.

I think the most important teaching I received on the Godhead was an audio tape by the UPC Preacher John Eckstat in about 1980 called "The Word Before Made Flesh".

My wife bought David Bernards book on it but it has never kept my attention so far. I regularly contend with Trins on the topic on Paltalk so I think I understand the Trinity as well as many of them do.

[Jito463]

I've read a number of David Bernard's books:

• Oneness and Trinity - A.D. 100 - 300
• The Trinitarian Controversy in the Fourth Century
• A History of Christian Doctrine Vol 1 & 2

I've read Ancient Champions of Oneness by William B. Chalfant.

I've read Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus? by Gordon Magee.

I also love to study Scripture on the subject, though I admit I don't read as much as I used to when I was younger (and had more time).

One of my favorites, is noting a specific trend from the KJV translation. Sometimes they translated pronouns with a 'th' (thee, thy, thine, thou), and sometimes with a 'y' (ye, you, your). The 'th' was used to indicate the singular, while a 'y' for the plural. So when referring to a singular individual, they would use 'th'. When referring to two or more individuals, they would use 'y'.

Every single time God is referenced in the Bible with a pronoun, it was with a 'th' translation. In other words, God is always referred to with the singular reference.

It would hardly serve to convince a trinitarian of the Oneness of God, but it's just one of those interesting little tidbits I like to keep stored in the back of my mind. It's just one more bit of evidence that God had His hand in the translation, showing His true nature to those who would see.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I have read The God Of Two Testaments by Robert Graves.

I just looked, and realized I have that in my Pentecostal Reference Studies I bought many years back at a camp meeting. I'll have to give that a look later.

[Michael The Disciple]

I just looked, and realized I have that in my Pentecostal Reference Studies I bought many years back at a camp meeting. I'll have to give that a look later.

This is one of the best IMO. Especially for someone just starting their search. Written by a Church Of Christ Minister. Not sure he is still a believer tho.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jito463

I've read a number of David Bernard's books:

• Oneness and Trinity - A.D. 100 - 300
• The Trinitarian Controversy in the Fourth Century
• A History of Christian Doctrine Vol 1 & 2

I've read Ancient Champions of Oneness by William B. Chalfant.

I've read Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus? by Gordon Magee.

Read all of these including,

The God Of Two Testaments by Robert Graves.

Have listened to David K. Bernard's online debates on the subject, specifically with James White.

[FlamingZword]

I read most of the oneness books mentioned here and probably some others, but that was many years ago.

I am Oneness, but I kind of stopped studying the subject many years ago since I am already convinced that it is the correct view.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by TheLayman

Hello Esaias,

It's been awhile and some rough mileage along the way so forgive me for not remembering but you are a pastor, correct? The reason I ask is I was wondering if you found any of your studies particularly helpful in what you teach.

Also, and perhaps of even more interest to me is did you have any ah-hah moments where the light came on and you understood something differently or understood something you simply didn't understand before? (I always want to remind others that suddenly having an epiphany where you go, "Oh, I understand what you are saying, or I understand what you mean now, or I see why you say that is not necessarily agreeing...but you can't really disagree until you understand, understand?)

I'll post more on this in the debate section but I'm working on a book (that doesn't mean I'll ever finish but it is underway). As I explain in the beginning of it, the book is neither an apologetic or a polemic because for the most part I think either would be wasted. The reason being is unlike any other two groups I don't think Oneness and Trinitarians understand each other. What makes this even more remarkable and more frustrating is that they believe they do understand one another. So the purpose of the book is understanding as I don't think arguing for or against is very useful if you argue past each other. Will we agree with one another if we understand one another...not likely, but it's always nice to know that you are understanding and being understood. You can't have productive conversations if you don't understand one another.

Thanks for your answer and it looks like about 6% of the people who viewed the question voted that they do study the subject at least some which is not bad.

Thanks again,
TheLayman

My ah-hah moment didn't come from reading a book. I had been in church for about two years and one morning, even though it felt as though I was awake, I was asleep. I had the sense that a woman was sitting in a chair beside my bed and she asked me, "Who is the Father? Who is the Son? Who is the Holy Ghost."

I then heard a man's voice respond, "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

There is no amount of exegesis, now, that could convince me that Jesus Christ was anything other than God Almighty. And I understood that the Holy Ghost was also God's Spirit accomplishing the things in us to allow us to come to perfection (maturity) as we respond to that move of the Spirit in our hearts and minds. One God, not two or three "persons". God is a Spirit and never could be a person unless he manifested in that ONE person - Jesus Christ.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

My ah-hah moment didn't come from reading a book. I had been in church for about two years and one morning, even though it felt as though I was awake, I was asleep. I had the sense that a woman was sitting in a chair beside my bed and she asked me, "Who is the Father? Who is the Son? Who is the Holy Ghost."

I then heard a man's voice respond, "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

There is no amount of exegesis, now, that could convince me that Jesus Christ was anything other than God Almighty. And I understood that the Holy Ghost was also God's Spirit accomplishing the things in us to allow us to come to perfection (maturity) as we respond to that move of the Spirit in our hearts and minds. One God, not two or three "persons". God is a Spirit and never could be a person unless he manifested in that ONE person - Jesus Christ.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I read a book on the Godhead.

it's call the Bible.

A One God book.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I read a book on the Godhead.

it's call the Bible.

A One God book.

Ha ha very funny.