Voter id laws racist but gun I'd laws not?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Jito463

We still have paper ballots here in Nebraska. And the GOP doesn't want a different ID specifically for voting, just a valid ID (such as a state issued ID or a driver's license).

Some gop-led state legislatures were indeed going for different voter id's-- specifically designed to be used for voting only,

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Willfully ignoring history does not change history.

There are historic reasons why things are the way they are and when you have, in 21st century America, state governors and state lawmakers making statements that show intent to reduce voter turn out of certain American demographics via the passing of certain laws, then those laws are automatically unlawful.

Even if said laws seem good, the intent they are birthed from are malevolent.

Who in America has trouble showing ID?

Besides illegals, wanted criminals (and democrats apparently)?

[Jermyn Davidson]

sigh...

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Willfully ignoring history does not change history.

There are historic reasons why things are the way they are and when you have, in 21st century America, state governors and state lawmakers making statements that show intent to reduce voter turn out of certain American demographics via the passing of certain laws, then those laws are automatically unlawful.

Even if said laws seem good, the intent they are birthed from are malevolent.

Quotes, please (with links).

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

sigh...

Exactly. Next?

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Willfully ignoring history does not change history.

There are historic reasons why things are the way they are and when you have, in 21st century America, state governors and state lawmakers making statements that show intent to reduce voter turn out of certain American demographics via the passing of certain laws, then those laws are automatically unlawful.

Even if said laws seem good, the intent they are birthed from is malevolent.

JD - respectfully disagree. As it stands now it is very easy for a non-citizen to vote, in many states.
I want voter id to prevent non-citizens from voting.
And to play to other side, Dems do not want ANY voter id, because they know they are the ones that benefit the most from voter fraud.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Dems do not want ANY voter id, because they know they are the ones that benefit the most from voter fraud.

What are you talking about? That never happens...

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Willfully ignoring history does not change history.

There are historic reasons why things are the way they are and when you have, in 21st century America, state governors and state lawmakers making statements that show intent to reduce voter turn out of certain American demographics via the passing of certain laws, then those laws are automatically unlawful.

Even if said laws seem good, the intent they are birthed from is malevolent.

Originally Posted by Jito463

Quotes, please (with links).

Glen Grothman (R) Wisconsin
"I think Hillary Clinton is about the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put up," Grothman said, before volunteering the following: "And now we have photo ID, and I think photo ID is going to make a little bit of a difference as well."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...win/?tid=a_inl


Mike Turzai (R) Pennsylvania
“We are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that we’ve talked about for years,” said Turzai in a speech to committee members Saturday. He mentioned the law among a laundry list of accomplishments made by the GOP-run legislature.
“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation — abortion facility regulations — in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”
https://thinkprogress.org/pennsylvan...772#.8ln1n2x1r


Scott Tranter, a Republican political consultant for Mr. Romney and others, called voter ID laws — and generating long lines at polling places — part of his party's tool kit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us...gain.html?_r=0


The Racism Behind Voter ID Laws
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.baad0fdbae2c

[aegsm76]

JD - yes voter id laws help Republicans win.
Why?
Because they keep illegal voters from voting.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Jito463,
I rarely respond to AFF'ers asking for "proof" because once I go through the hassle of posting "proof", they disappear. Please at least let me know you have seen my "proof".