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Old 01-16-2016, 01:54 PM
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How long do you have to wait to be a leader? The oldest Millennials are in mid-30's - plenty of pastors started before then. Definitely respect leaders and seek advice, but you become your own person at some point.
Those rebelious millenials learning Greek.
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Those rebelious millenials learning Greek.
Follow the old paths - learn Hebrew.

I wonder what language Adam and Eve spoke.
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Your post sounds like the usual psychological manipulation used to keep people from questioning or changing anything. I think one should respect "pioneers" but not be a slave to their thoughts or methods. Our commitment is to the bible and God, not to any man's particular take on it.
We do not need novices assuming the helm of the ship of Zion.
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The prophet(s) and the apostle(s) were commanded by the Lord to CLOSE
the book(s) until their time to be fulfilled.
Daniel was told to close the books til the come of the end. John was told not to close them when Revelation was written since it was at hand.
No other reference exists in the bible about closing the books.
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Re: A word to Millennials in the church

Elders are to teach the youngers the solid truths, so they can transmit them on to the next generation.

All the problems stem from people not following the ORIGINAL pioneers - the apostles.
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:32 AM
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Follow the old paths - learn Hebrew.

I wonder what language Adam and Eve spoke.
I don't like Hebrew
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Re: A word to Millennials in the church

I had a very wise college professor from India who said the following:

If one or two of you don't do well and end up failing the course, I will assume you were disinterested, didn't make an effort, weren't committed, and didn't try hard enough to be successful. But if ten or twelve of you are struggling and not doing well and end up in danger of not passing, I will assume the fault lies with me.

By the end of the first century, the 3rd to 4th generation of believers since Pentecost were already dropping the ball. Was it because of young upstarts wresting the helm away from wise elders, or was it because so-called "wise" elders were not making certain that the up and coming ministers of the new generation were properly instructed in how to respect and honor them as elders?

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Daniel was told to close the books til the come of the end. John was told not to close them when Revelation was written since it was at hand.
No other reference exists in the bible about closing the books.
You noticed the "s" in parenthesis, and I stand corrected.





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Old 01-17-2016, 07:28 AM
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The issue of this thread is not "basic submission to authority". Rather it is the embrace of an attitude that rejects any wisdom from previous generations.
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We do not need novices assuming the helm of the ship of Zion.
I don't think folks in their 30's are neccessarily "novices". No more than some "pioneers" are stumbling blocks because they are so bound by their church culture and traditions that are extra biblical. Note I did not say all but some. I will not lump all elders / pioneers into one stereotype like you did in the quote above where you infer that millennials are novices and should not be in leadership. I say hogwash.

As I said before your post is more psychological manipulation designed to control people and shame the into not questioning anything or changing anything in Pentecost.
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