How Deep Is It In Here?

[JoReba]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I spoke in tongues in a service and and a person who worked in Pakistan came up to me and told me I spoke Erdu (sp?) giving praise to God.


My dad is German and heard a person speaking in tongues in service and he knew they were speaking Hungarian.

Next.

Big deal. Was the person an unsaved Jew, as in Acts 2, or not? We're thousands saved? We're you and your dad the only ones doin a known tongue?

As is typical of weak "Pentecostals," you grasp and exaggerate any little shred of a story, as if Jesus is being thereby glorified. Jesus us not Glorified by your weak little stories.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by JoReba

You avoid addressing the falsehood of the "Pentecostal" label because of "how I sound?" And, because of how I "make you feel?"

Lol. You really are weak, and do think like a woman, don't you? You have not the Spirit of Truth, but only a weak little spirit of a guy without enough sack to step up with rationale.

Don't get me wrong. You belong right there in "Pentecostslism," with those of Matthew 7:21-23, and not with Christ's functional Church. You are all talk

[Sean]

Originally Posted by JoReba

"Pentecostals" today try their best to justify their name by talking a lot, by constantly coming up with trick little catch phrases which sound spiritual, and by trying to talk about some "New Thing Being Done By Thu Holy Spirit!! A Refreshing!! All Across America!!"

But, in fact, they cannot replicate even one feature of Acts ch. 2, The Day of Pentecost immediately following Christ's Ascension. No "Pentecostals" can ever:

1.) Show that Jesus Commanded them to wait anywhere for the Gift of The Spirit.

I waited a few days until I was baptized with the Holy Ghost, from when I found out I needed it

2.) Be gathered together actually in one accord as were the Disciples and Apostles in Acts 2.

We were in 1 accord in 1 place, when the Holy Ghost fell on those in our little building

3.) Have their building shake with a mighty wind of supernatural power.

The bass player was sooo loud, the building shook

4.) Have cloven tongues of fire descend upon all present.

That particular sign was a fulfillment of a prophecy of Jesus, that the disciples would see the son of man visibly appear. It was a one time event.

5.) Have all present speak the Works of God in known languages of international Jews present.

There were only Hispanics and Whites in the church that the Holy Ghost fell on me. It was logistically impossible to duplicate.

6.) Have an authentic Apostle, one of The Twelve, briefly speak, and bring 3000 new Believers into The Church.

We had the written words of several of the original Apostles in our church that day.

No "Pentecostal" can replicate even one of these things, yet they proudly assign that label to themselves.

We are pentecostals, because we believe in the exact same doctrines and exact same experiences of the 1st century church.

If these "Pentecostals" cannot even be honest enough to accurately name themselves, then how many fabrications, distortions, lies, false doctrines, undemonstrated teachings, and goofy actions are within their churches? How constantly desperate are they, and how much work and diligence does it take them to justify anything they do as "Pentecostals?"

It is merely up to God to bring the supernatural events of the 1st century church into our world. It will most assuredly happen if we believe in these things, that they are still for us today.

Now notice below how they are unable to speak to any if these facts listed above, but can only make ad hominem retorts, can only toss up some vaguely related Scriptures, and will try to change the topic here about their dishonesty.

Just ask any of them these questions:

1.) Why can you not heal "all people who come to you" as did Jesus, without first preaching at them for 40 minutes?

Jesus did not even do that....And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

2.) Why do you call so many things "anointed" which Scripture never calls anointed?

Like what?

3.) Why are you never able to heal amputees?

Only Jesus can do that, not us.

4.) Why are there "Pentecostal" preachers and evangelists who are adulterors, fornicators, pedophiles, and thieves? Is being "filled to overflowing with The Holy Spirit" not powerful enough to convict them while within temptation before they willfully sin? Yes? No?

Because the works of the flesh are able to dominate the fruit of the Spirit, when the old man relives, and comes off the cross.

5.) Why are there more fake "tongues" and meaningless "prophecies" than authentic ones?

Only God knows if tongues are fake.....2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
It is a bad idea to try to label a persons' unknown tongue, as fake.


6.) Why are emotional excesses and theatrics given such priority by "Pentecostals?"

Because LOVE is an emotion, and we are emotional about our love for God

7.) Why has the notion of "deliverance ministry" been consistently shown to be fake and unreliable?

Because, when the Lord tells folks, go and sin no more, they go and sin some more.

8.) Why do "Pentecostal" preachers and evangelists so rarely have marketable skills, and must stroke people for money and "love gifts?"

Many I know, actually worked and retired from secular occupations like any one of us that are not in ministry....probably 50%

9.) Why do "Pentecostal" preachers and evangelists consistently disobey Proverbs 10:19 and babble a multitude of words in their churches unlike Jesus and The Twelve Apostles who always spoke concisely and briefly?

Actually, they do what Paul did....14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.....18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

10.) Why do they think falling down on the floor has anything to do with attaining spirituality, even when the ladies are then covered up with a modesty cloth?

Lol.

When a person falls down on the floor, it generally means they are slain in the Spirit. This is a physical sign of the Holy Ghost, dominating someone, PHYSICALLY. It happened to me the very first time I felt the Holy Ghost. The power of God was sooo strong, that i fell forward to my knees, crying my eyes out from a couch to the floor and cried, prayed and worshipped. The power I felt was overwhelming, to say the least.

Jo Reba, this experience is real. I am not kidding. It is REALLLY REAL!

"Pentecostals" never can answer any of this. They can only play The Victim, play the Faithful Dumb Steward, or got All Huffy.

Not me, because, before I received the Holy Ghost, I was skeptical, like you.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Good thing KBTW isn't a man!!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Good thing KBTW isn't a man!!!

JoReba's perception is a bit slow?

[JoReba]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Share some "anointing" here. Lol.

[JoReba]

Originally Posted by Sean

Not me, because, before I received the Holy Ghost, I was skeptical, like you.

Yes, Sean, your red lettered font is very precious.

Each of your responses above in red letter is weak and incomplete. For instance, agape is not an emotion. That is not found in Scripture. And, Jesus did not instruct you to wait anywhere for the Holy Spirit. And, Scripture clearly states at times Jesus did heal all who came to Him in Gallilee. You and your friends were not in one accord because you did not have actual doctrinal unity on all matters. You just had a common interest for a while. Acts 2 says nothing about loud music shaking a building as a supernatural event from The Holy Ghost.

I could go on to expose your weak little reasonings. But it is not myself who does the work here. Gdo will mercilessly trim your foolishness. Al I do here for you is to prime and alert you to that when it happens. I have been anointed just for that function. How can we know? Because just as innumerable "Pentecostle" preachers have babbled, "When we find God's Gift for our ministry, we are astonished and overjoyed to see how He has all along been preparing us for it."

Have you ever heard, or preached, that, Sean?

Oh, I almost forgot. 11.) You were not at Pentecost, therefore you cannot be a "Pentecostal" without lying.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by JoReba

Big deal. Was the person an unsaved Jew, as in Acts 2, or not? We're thousands saved? We're you and your dad the only ones doin a known tongue?

As is typical of weak "Pentecostals," you grasp and exaggerate any little shred of a story, as if Jesus is being thereby glorified. Jesus us not Glorified by your weak little stories.

You clearly would reject my words even if thousands of Jews were saved as a result of hearing us speak in tongues in their language.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Good thing KBTW isn't a man!!!

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

JoReba's perception is a bit slow?

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Why could you not answer my question?

By the way, I pastored a church where the firetrucks came during worship service one night because they saw flames on the roof. They walked in and were amazed it was a worship service!

Originally Posted by mfblume

I spoke in tongues in a service and and a person who worked in Pakistan came up to me and told me I spoke Erdu (sp?) giving praise to God.


My dad is German and heard a person speaking in tongues in service and he knew they were speaking Hungarian.

Next.

Praise God!

Joreba doesn't want to hear any of these testimonies - I could share some too - but he is stuck in his babbling mode, and refuses to believe anything of what is said... all he wants here is a place to vent his anger and hurt at Pentecostals, and then slander anything that is said. If he was sincerely wanting answers, he would exhibit a much different spirit, but he has already demonstrated multiple times that anything that is said in response to his demands will never be enough.