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10-30-2015, 12:41 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
"As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said,
Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work where unto I have
called them."
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Yes, The Holy Spirit did indeed convey that message, but there are no quotation marks of specific utterance being spoken. Tell me, just becsuse The Holy Spirit communicated at times to The Apostles, does that mean He does so to you or others today?
Here is the lesson for you: Simply because you mentally agree with a historical account in Scripture, and you have a wonderful faith in the recorded Word of God, does not mean that account is going to as well occur in your own life today, or that it occurs in the Church today. Are you able to grasp this, or not ... ?
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10-30-2015, 12:51 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
Mr. Joreba your case has been blown.
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10-30-2015, 01:03 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by good samaritan
Mr. Joreba your case has been blown.
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Nope. Not at all. You cannot give any accounts of The Holy Spirit today contrary to my list of fallacious ideas. You have no facts. Lol.
Step up with information, rather than with mere ideas you feel comfortable with. Be a Strong Man of God, rather than a hopeful little spirit.
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10-30-2015, 01:20 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by JoReba
Just as I predicted, you are speaking the "I" pronoun, as if it matters. Lol.
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Ah...how hypocritical. You use the same pronoun all the time.
So I ask you again, who is HE?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-30-2015, 01:21 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by JoReba
Yes, The Holy Spirit did indeed convey that message, but there are no quotation marks of specific utterance being spoken. Tell me, just becsuse The Holy Spirit communicated at times to The Apostles, does that mean He does so to you or others today?
Here is the lesson for you: Simply because you mentally agree with a historical account in Scripture, and you have a wonderful faith in the recorded Word of God, does not mean that account is going to as well occur in your own life today, or that it occurs in the Church today. Are you able to grasp this, or not ... ?
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Enough of you, WHO is the Holy Spirit?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-30-2015, 01:22 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by JoReba
Nope. Not at all. You cannot give any accounts of The Holy Spirit today contrary to my list of fallacious ideas. You have no facts. Lol.
Step up with information, rather than with mere ideas you feel comfortable with. Be a Strong Man of God, rather than a hopeful little spirit.
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Please...stop with your pronouns and answer the question. WHO is the Holy Spirit?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-30-2015, 04:39 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
Joreba - you have (very sadly and wrongly!) undermined the writings of the Apostle Paul, who had much to say about the spirit. Yet, Peter in his writings backed up, and called Paul's writings "epistles"... however to satisfy this (crazy) quest of yours, then we will look at what the Apostle Peter had to say in his writings about the spirit:
1 Peter 4:10-11 "As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God."
Here Peter is speaking of a gift - what could that gift be? A gift from God? What is that "gift from God". Could it be the Holy Spirit, that you are seeking to undermine?
1 Peter. 4:11 "If any speak, let him speak as the oracles of God, if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whome be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen"
Peter here is speaking about ministering, speaking, and using the abilities of the gift of God given to "every man". This gift being spoken of indeed is the gift of the Spirit.
So, contrary to your supposition, the Spirit CAN, DOES and SHOULD speak through man, as written by the Apostle Peter.
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10-30-2015, 05:47 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
Joreba is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Only deity can be blasphemed. So if Jesus spoke of blaspheming the Holy Spirit then Jesus noted the Holy Spirit is God. And if the Spirit is not worshiped then God is not worshiped.
Mar 3:28-29 KJV Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: (29) But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Somebody needs to dump this blasphemer off the forum.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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10-30-2015, 08:57 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Ah...how hypocritical. You use the same pronoun all the time.
So I ask you again, who is HE?
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I see you still cannot refute any of the 5 points above in my opening post. That means you agree with me. And now you are trying to be bossy with your question. Your demanding spirit verifies your lack of submission to God, and demonstrates your lack of being filled with The Holy Spirit. But, please tell me if I am wrong, here. Okay?
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10-30-2015, 09:09 PM
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Re: Popular Lies About The Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Joreba - you have (very sadly and wrongly!) undermined the writings of the Apostle Paul, who had much to say about the spirit. Yet, Peter in his writings backed up, and called Paul's writings "epistles"... however to satisfy this (crazy) quest of yours, then we will look at what the Apostle Peter had to say in his writings about the spirit:
1 Peter 4:10-11 "As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God."
Here Peter is speaking of a gift - what could that gift be? A gift from God? What is that "gift from God". Could it be the Holy Spirit, that you are seeking to undermine?
1 Peter. 4:11 "If any speak, let him speak as the oracles of God, if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whome be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen"
Peter here is speaking about ministering, speaking, and using the abilities of the gift of God given to "every man". This gift being spoken of indeed is the gift of the Spirit.
So, contrary to your supposition, the Spirit CAN, DOES and SHOULD speak through man, as written by the Apostle Peter.
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You are unable to read the English language. I have not said The Holy Spirit does not convey information to Believers. He does. I have not said Believers are not capable of having The Holy Spirit indwelling them. He does, just not babbling and lying Pentecostals.
Read my original five points here. Do not presume to change Scriptural reality by speculating, "Could it be the Holy Spirit, that you are you are seeking to undermine?" As a thoughtless "minister," you cannot see I have undermined nothing about The Holy Spirit, and have rather shed light on the foolish distortions and lies about The Holy Spirit promoted by Babbling Pentecostals, as yourself.
Lol. This is so precious, so fun to watch.
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