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Old 03-31-2015, 02:49 PM
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Re: Hamas guilty of war crimes says Amnesty

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When the occupying soldiers who are oppressing these people return to their own country and their own borders you will then be free to take the high road. Otherwise, it is my view that as long as their kids are being knocked around by courageous IDF "heroes" in their own neighborhoods then those people have the right to defend themselves by any means necessary.

Deliberately antagonizing these people through their children and by withholding basic necessities is a legitimate cause for war. Expanding for settlers from Eastern Europe is not. There are 4,661 people per square kilometer in Gaza. The reason weapons are around civilian areas there is because there is nothing there but crowded civilian areas. Where else would weapons be? What a laugh. Pack these people as tight as possible then declare "war crime" when they fight back from the area you packed them into? Find a hobby.
So, your solution is a "two-state" solution?
What would be the borders of each state?
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:32 PM
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Re: Hamas guilty of war crimes says Amnesty

Israel has committed its fair share of war crimes, but because they are our little brother and GOD's chosen few, they get away with it.
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FMC - so what is your solution?
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FMC - so what is your solution?
A two state solution. Israel doesnt want that though. The Arabs do.
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What Arabs do?
Both Hamas and the PA call for the destruction of Israel and the Jews.
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What Arabs do?
Both Hamas and the PA call for the destruction of Israel and the Jews.
Why is that? Because the Israelis refuse a two state solution.
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Re: Hamas guilty of war crimes says Amnesty

ah, the kicking around of the human "solution" again
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ah, the kicking around of the human "solution" again
Hey, it beats just insulting each other...
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Why is that? Because the Israelis refuse a two state solution.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061400741.html

Here is an article from 2009 when Netanyahu endorsed a two state solution.
I believe he held to that until right before the elections, this year.

Hamas nor the PA changed their charter, due to his concession.
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Israel has internationally recognized borders. Their "incidents" resulting in their need to "defend themselves" are not happening inside those borders. Including those teens who were killed before the war last year. Those teens were hitchhiking between settlements outside those internationally recognized borders. In this, just in being there, Isreal, Israeli settlers, and the Israeli IDF are the aggressors and putting settlers there as bait for creating justification for attacking the people there is inexcusable.
Ditto for the attack a few weeks ago in East Jerusalem. Also outside of their borders.
When they return to their own area the peace process can probably start. I or you or any of us wouldn't make peace with guns to our heads either.
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