This Year's Deficit Below 50 Year Average!

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

No matter what I try, if there is anything good to report that has anything to do with Obama, even remotely, you guys find a way to be "Debbie Downers" about it.

I don't disagree with anyting you said david, but can't you see that you guys are so biased against Obama that it is impossible for you all give him credit for anything positive?

Show me what he did to deserve credit? He fought tooth and nail against the sequestration. He damned and condemned Republicans in Congress for it.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Even with the GOP shutting down the govt, the sequestration cuts were put in place by the Obama Administration. The Obama Admin didn't want sequestration to go into place and even still, they reconvened and some of the sequestration cuts were mitigated with bipartisan help.

Not true. The sequestration cuts were not "put in place by the obama administration." The cuts were a trigger added to the Budget Control Act of 2011 so that if certain conditions weren't met, they would automatically go into effect. You can't re-write history, JD. obama and the Democrats didn't believe Republicans would have a backbone to allow sequestration. obama thought he got what he wanted with the BCA without any concessions, since the sequestration was never supposed to happen (according to him and the Democrats). When obama didn't meet the conditions outlined in the BCA, the sequestration was enforced against his will.

Then he and the Democrats condemned the sequestration and the Republicans for approving it. Republicans did allow changes to defense spending and VA spending.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Which is it, JD? You can't praise government spending in one thread, then in another praise a slight reduction in projected deficits because of cuts in government spending. Or maybe in your mind, you can.

I can.

I can thank God for the wisdom that He gave to President Obama so that he'd know when to spend and when to cut back on spending.



Actually, if I remember it correctly, President Obama wanted the sequester to be perceived as so painful that the Republicans wouldn't allow it to happen. That plan didn't work.

[Jermyn Davidson]

The conservative paper Washington Times reported back in 2013 that sequestration was Obama's idea.

“There is nothing wrong with cutting spending that much — we should be cutting even more — but the sequester is an ugly and dangerous way to do it,” House Speaker John A. Boehner wrote this week in an op ed column for The Wall Street Journal.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz3Q2R0utQh
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[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by n david

CBO isn't based on fact, it's based entirely on projections and assumptions.









I'm sorry, where are the facts again? It's rather amusing that you were singing the praises of big government spending in another thread, yet in this article, the primary reason for the decline in deficit was cuts in government spending!

Here's a fact for you: Remember the sequestration in 2013, that thing obama and the Democrats were so angry at Republicans over? The act which cut spending by 1.1 trillion over several years? Where would the deficit be without the Republicans shutting down Congress and forcing the implementation of those sequestration cuts?

Newsflash, JD, the deficit barely fell in spite of obama and his policies.

But keep drinking the kool-aid.

Why arent you running for office?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Originalist

A record number of people remain out of the work force having given up on looking for a job. Thank God for President Obama?

Originalist, we can't blame President Obama for that shared situation.

If you can, then you must give him credit for the improvements that have happened that have helped millions of other Americans. There are some who appear to only want to blame the President and that isn't wise or realistic.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I can.

I can thank God for the wisdom that He gave to President Obama so that he'd know when to spend and when to cut back on spending.

You're not making any sense. It doesn't matter when spending is done, ANY spending adds to the deficit. Why can't liberals understand this?

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Actually, if I remember it correctly, President Obama wanted the sequester to be perceived as so painful that the Republicans wouldn't allow it to happen. That plan didn't work.

Right. obama refused to concede on the budget, so in order to get enough votes to pass, he allowed the sequestration to be put in, thinking it would never be implemented. Fortunately, the Republicans grew a backbone, refused to capitulate and forced the sequestration to be triggered.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Originalist, we can't blame President Obama for that shared situation.

If you can, then you must give him credit for the improvements that have happened that have helped millions of other Americans. There are some who appear to only want to blame the President and that isn't wise or realistic.

Actually you can blame obama for that. Instead of working with Congress to pass bills which will create jobs, obama spent most of his first term crafting a job-killing, deficit raising healthcare bill. He also took time to golf, go on vacations and campaign-style fundraisers all across the country. During which, he spent every moment slandering Republicans as doing nothing; yet he had a Democrat Congress most of his first term!

Even those in his own party said he's lazy and doesn't like to work with Congress.

Heck, he didn't even meet with the job council he formed. They sat around for a year until it was disbanded. The so-called best and brightest minds in business sat around waiting to advise the president, but he was too busy running around golfing and campaigning. One year. No meetings.

So tell me again why the eeeeeevil Republicans are to blame for a lazy, do nothing, blamer in chief?

[Carl]

How about the national debt?, how is that doing?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Actually you can blame obama for that. Instead of working with Congress to pass bills which will create jobs, obama spent most of his first term crafting a job-killing, deficit raising healthcare bill. He also took time to golf, go on vacations and campaign-style fundraisers all across the country. During which, he spent every moment slandering Republicans as doing nothing; yet he had a Democrat Congress most of his first term!

Even those in his own party said he's lazy and doesn't like to work with Congress.

Heck, he didn't even meet with the job council he formed. They sat around for a year until it was disbanded. The so-called best and brightest minds in business sat around waiting to advise the president, but he was too busy running around golfing and campaigning. One year. No meetings.

So tell me again why the eeeeeevil Republicans are to blame for a lazy, do nothing, blamer in chief?

Who said anything about blaming Republicans in this thread?

I've never read about any Democrats calling the President lazy either.

And either sequestration was Obama's idea or it wasn't.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Who said anything about blaming Republicans in this thread?

It appeared you were seeking to place some blame on Republicans earlier in a response to Originalist. And if not, it's only a matter of time before you would've done so.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I've never read about any Democrats calling the President lazy either.

I'm looking for the clip. There was a Democrat Congressman who, a couple years ago, complained that obama was lazy and didn't like working with even Democrats in Congress.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

And either sequestration was Obama's idea or it wasn't.

It wasn't his idea. He didn't come up with the idea, someone else did.

Why, if it was his idea, would he condemn it and use every campaign-style town hall meeting in 2013 to rant about how horrible it was.