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07-11-2014, 05:01 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
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So who game them the order? You never answered my question, why would hillary or obama give the order to not help them?
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I edited my post. Go back and read it. We've already discussed all of this and I am not going over it again.
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07-11-2014, 05:17 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
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I edited my post. Go back and read it. We've already discussed all of this and I am not going over it again.
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It should only take two sentences really. Who gave it and why did they give it? The edit you made showed none of that.
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07-11-2014, 07:20 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
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It should only take two sentences really. Who gave it and why did they give it? The edit you made showed none of that.
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That is what former prosecutor, Trey Gowdy, is trying to find out. He said that he has evidence of a cover-up. Not only evidence, but the intention to hide the evidence. He has also stated that he can't, at this time, disclose that evidence.
Gowdy is now head of a select committee to investigate. All of the depositions are being taken right now, behind the scenes quietly. Anyone who is threatening any person to withhold information will also be subpoenaed.
Legally, he must go through the process, have all of his ducks in a row before he can do anything about it. They will not keep us updated, but the process is ongoing. We won't know anything until it is over.
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07-11-2014, 07:46 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
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That is what former prosecutor, Trey Gowdy, is trying to find out. He said that he has evidence of a cover-up. Not only evidence, but the intention to hide the evidence. He has also stated that he can't, at this time, disclose that evidence.
Gowdy is now head of a select committee to investigate. All of the depositions are being taken right now, behind the scenes quietly. Anyone who is threatening any person to withhold information will also be subpoenaed.
Legally, he must go through the process, have all of his ducks in a row before he can do anything about it. They will not keep us updated, but the process is ongoing. We won't know anything until it is over.
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WOW is all I can say. So you response was that you are basing your beliefs on that? Again, I am wasn't talking about a cover up. You want to believe that fine. Where is the evidence that someone, either Hillary or Obama, told the help that was going to get there and help them, to stand down and not go? Why would they do that? A cover up of incompetence would help win an election. What would letting those people die accomplish? If someone did give the stand down order, it wouldn't be that hard to figure out. Just follow the chain of command.
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07-11-2014, 08:16 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
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WOW is all I can say. So you response was that you are basing your beliefs on that? Again, I am wasn't talking about a cover up. You want to believe that fine. Where is the evidence that someone, either Hillary or Obama, told the help that was going to get there and help them, to stand down and not go? Why would they do that? A cover up of incompetence would help win an election. What would letting those people die accomplish? If someone did give the stand down order, it wouldn't be that hard to figure out. Just follow the chain of command.
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Do you think these prosecutors are going to hand out information in the middle of an investigation? How in the world do you think you can get to the bottom of an issue when documents have been hidden to hinder the investigation. That is what a special committee is for. We just need to sit back and let the process work.
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07-11-2014, 09:29 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
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Do you think these prosecutors are going to hand out information in the middle of an investigation? How in the world do you think you can get to the bottom of an issue when documents have been hidden to hinder the investigation. That is what a special committee is for. We just need to sit back and let the process work.
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So again, you are believing something based on someone saying they have information that they cant release. Lame! Nothing is going to come to light to support their theory. Its a waste of time. There was and is no cover up. The funny thing is that normal political process is to hurl accusations left and right. This witch hunt will turn up nothing.
You don't need to do that much digging to figure out who gave an order to stand down and who didn't allow someone to intervene. Go ahead and support the party that focuses on issues that are fake instead of real issues. Don't cry when your boys lose in 2016
You don't even know what you believe.
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07-11-2014, 09:51 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
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So again, you are believing something based on someone saying they have information that they cant release. Lame! Nothing is going to come to light to support their theory. Its a waste of time. There was and is no cover up. The funny thing is that normal political process is to hurl accusations left and right. This witch hunt will turn up nothing.
You don't need to do that much digging to figure out who gave an order to stand down and who didn't allow someone to intervene. Go ahead and support the party that focuses on issues that are fake instead of real issues. Don't cry when your boys lose in 2016
You don't even know what you believe.
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And the beat goes on, behind the scenes.
Gowdy Adopts Turtle Approach in Benghazi Investigation – Slow, Steady
July 11, 2014
Gowdy’s committee will take a slower, less flamboyant approach to fact finding and will, for the most part, eschew televised hearings where Congressional representatives each get five minutes to grandstand. Instead, he and his committee are bent upon disassembling the mountains of documents and information the House Select Special Committee already has and discovering what mysteries still exist.
“People who have worked with me in the past and the people on the other side of the aisle who I work with now, I don’t think they are at all surprised this is the approach that I am taking,” said. “My goal is to find out what happened.”
Gowdy has been critical of the media, saying they have not demanded answers to critical questions about the attack. Among the burning questions:
Why was Chris Stephens in Benghazi on the night of the attack?
Where was the President on the night of the attack?
Why were requests for additional security denied?
Why was the United States the last flag flying in Benghazi after the months of violence and attacks upon diplomats?
Why was no help sent to Benghazi by our government, and who made that decision?
http://usfinancepost.com/gowdy-adopt...ady-21103.html
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07-11-2014, 09:56 PM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
REPORT: Trey Gowdy is Quietly Building a Massive Case to Expose Benghazi
There isn’t much news or publicity coming out of the Benghazi Committee yet, because Trey Gowdy is taking a serious and methodical approach to the investigation. But that doesn’t mean nothing is happening yet with the Committee, according to Politico.
The panel is examining subpoenas from committees that previously investigated the Benghazi attacks to develop a list of unanswered questions from the Obama administration. There is also outreach to agencies that received requests for information.
Meanwhile, Gowdy is planning a series of closed-door meetings this month that could include a screening of a classified video from the Benghazi compound. He’s also checking with the 11 other lawmakers on the panel about working through the August recess.
“I don’t want to appear naive but I do hold out some hope that a few things left remaining in politics, or in our society, can be above politics,” Gowdy said. “People who have worked with me in the past and the people on the other side of the aisle who I work with now, I don’t think they are at all surprised this is the approach that I am taking. My goal is to find out what happened.”
http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/trey-gowdy/
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07-12-2014, 11:02 AM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
I hope Gowdy finds out that there isn't some massive cover up-- for more than 1 reason.
However, I never heard the revelation that there WASN'T a "Stand Down" order issued.
I also saw a press conference that completely contradicts that statement.
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07-12-2014, 11:09 AM
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Re: No Stand Down Order at Benghazi
I KNOW that I read about and saw a televised testimony under oath that Stevens himself denied additional resources for security. He said it wasn't needed, just weeks before the attack.
Then you have that Senator or Representative who passionately declared the hypocrisy after the fact of Congressmen and women who are shocked at what happened but decided to reduce the funding for the Benghazi mission earlier that year.
The Benghazi attack is a massive fecal pie that all of Congress played a part in.
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