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Old 06-21-2014, 08:38 AM
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We have been in the Assemblies almost from the moment we left UPC, and every church we have been part of has been very Pentecostal. Our church is very Pentecostal and it is a large church, nothing like hearing the throngs of people when the Holy Ghost falls.

I don't disagree with you, but I will say this that the future of the AG will be Spirit filled, about 80 percent of all kids that go to youth camp or any of the camps for that matter come back Baptized in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
Oh brother.... those poor kids receiving the HG, and not being baptized in Jesus name. What shall become of them?

Seriously, I rejoice with you to hear of what the Lord is doing in your midst!
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I love my AoG friends, they are awesome people.

I love my UPC family too, here in FL we are very diverse, many black, Hispanic, and other ethnic backgrounds.

We are also having revival, 42 filled with the HG on Pentecost Sunday, people being filled and baptized almost everyweek.
This is wonderful Sis! Glad to hear it! How have you been? Missed seeing you around!
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Old 06-21-2014, 08:51 AM
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While it may mean the ranks are swelling, it doesn't necessarily mean the AoG is actually growing in terms of fulfilling the Great Commission (i.e. winning the lost).
Your statement "winning the lost" I would like to address.

"Winning the lost" should be something more than just getting people "filled with the spirit". What happens to someone who has received the HG? What about the discliping? What about the percentage of people who receive the HG, and one year later are still living for the Lord? Where are those percentages?

You see, I really feel that discipling is an area that OP has missed out on. Everyone gets excited, hoops and hollers when X number of people receive the HG. But then... what about the followup? How many of those people are discipled, and taught how to be a disciple of Jesus? In my almost 40 years in the OP, I saw that as a huge problem. People would pray around the altar for hours to get someone "filled", but then drop them like a hotcake later when they began to struggle with how to live for the Lord, while moving on to get the next person "filled". I think it is a tragedy.

It's like taking a baby after being born, and struggling to get the baby to begin to drink milk, and then once he takes a drink of the milk, then it would be like taking the milk from the baby and saying okay, here is the meat. You better start eating this now, and shape up quick, or you're outta here. I know this sounds awful, but this is the attitude I saw many take to people who just received the HS, and then expected them immediately to mature on their own.

How many people who receive the HG in a Sunday morning service, are actually still living for the Lord 6 months to a year later? Some will be (if they have families or support )... but a large percentage won't be.

I think discipling is something that should be given much more attention than it is. I know many churches have followups, classes, and things like that, but it sounds better to talk about the "10 who received the HG this morning", then to say, "Folks, let's praise the Lord for the 1 soul who received the HG last year, who is still here, and living for the Lord."
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Why would oneness folks care what the AOG is doing. They are preaching false doctrine and are a false church so why would we care what they do?
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Why would oneness folks care what the AOG is doing. They are preaching false doctrine and are a false church so why would we care what they do?
Stay in your foxhole brother. It seems to be a safe place for you. Don't let anyone try to tell you that your foxhole is in enemy territory. It's okay though. You're safe in your little foxhole, that's what you believe, and that's all that matters.
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Stay in your foxhole brother. It seems to be a safe place for you. Don't let anyone try to tell you that your foxhole is in enemy territory. It's okay though. You're safe in your little foxhole, that's what you believe, and that's all that matters.
This makes no sense to me.

Yes the enemy is all around and false doctrine is an enemy to God's people.

Yes I am in a safe place in God's church.



The world of oneness Pentecost that I know is much different than what I see here, but it is anything but small. There are so many meetings and conf. that still preach the truth I could never attend them all.
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Old 06-21-2014, 09:19 AM
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This makes no sense to me.

Yes the enemy is all around and false doctrine is an enemy to God's people.

Yes I am in a safe place in God's church.



The world of oneness Pentecost that I know is much different than what I see here, but it is anything but small. There are so many meetings and conf. that still preach the truth I could never attend them all.
We are all in a war, brother. It's just that you believe the particular place (or church) that you are in is the only safe place. That's the issue I was trying to address.

There is more than one safe place

But I'm content to let you stay there, as long as you don't pass your judgments too freely around, and condemn everyone else who is not in the same "foxhole" as you God Bless.
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Old 06-21-2014, 09:33 AM
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We have been in the Assemblies almost from the moment we left UPC, and every church we have been part of has been very Pentecostal. Our church is very Pentecostal and it is a large church, nothing like hearing the throngs of people when the Holy Ghost falls.

I don't disagree with you, but I will say this that the future of the AG will be Spirit filled, about 80 percent of all kids that go to youth camp or any of the camps for that matter come back Baptized in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
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Why would oneness folks care what the AOG is doing. They are preaching false doctrine and are a false church so why would we care what they do?
Do you realize how funny your post sounds as you obviously cared enough to deliberately click on this discussion and then take time to post more than once. I thought you were oneness?
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