Allah and other languages words for GOD

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Not according to Jesus funny man.

Jesus (at least according to Mark) called on the name of ELI

(אלהי אלהי למא שבקתני) uses term Eloi, from a very early version of the gospel

Wrong again walking man, Jesus did not call a name, He called a title.

According to Jesus the Name of God was manifested in and through the man Christ, which name was Jesus.

Joh 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

The word manifested means:

G5319
φανερόω
phaneroō
fan-er-o'-o
From G5318; to render apparent (literally or figuratively): - appear, manifestly declare, (make) manifest (forth), shew (self).

The Christ made the name of God apparent to the Apostles, thus they preached the name, which is Jesus.

Jesus is God, God is Jesus. The flesh, the Messiah, the Christ, was not God but the Spirit that resided in that flesh was God. That Spirit had a name, Jesus, that He desires to be known by today.

Paul, a one God Pharisee, who would have thought it heresy to ever say that there was more than one God, met that one God on the road to Damascas and asked His name.

That one God told him His name. He did not say Allah, He did not name Buddha, He named Himself as Jesus.

Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

The name of God is Jesus. People might call Him by other titles but His name is Jesus.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Not according to Jesus funny man.

Jesus (at least according to Mark) called on the name of ELI

(אלהי אלהי למא שבקתני) uses term Eloi, from a very early version of the gospel

Eli is the word El with the suffix "i" meaning "My God" or "My Strength"

’Ελωΐ
Elōḯ; interjection from the Aramaic ‛Elāhh (H426), "My God" (Mar_15:34 quoted from Psa_22:2). Our Lord calls God "Eli, Eli" (Mat_27:46), as in Psa_22:1, equivalent to Elōḯ. The "Eli, Eli" of Mat_27:46 represents Hebr. whereas "Elōḯ Elōḯ" of Mar_15:34 represents Aramaic, both meaning "My God" as translated. Matthew's revision conforms to the Hebr. text of Psa_22:1.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Wrong again walking man, Jesus did not call a name, He called a title.

According to Jesus the Name of God was manifested in and through the man Christ, which name was Jesus.

Joh 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

The word manifested means:

G5319
φανερόω
phaneroō
fan-er-o'-o
From G5318; to render apparent (literally or figuratively): - appear, manifestly declare, (make) manifest (forth), shew (self).

The Christ made the name of God apparent to the Apostles, thus they preached the name, which is Jesus.

Jesus is God, God is Jesus. The flesh, the Messiah, the Christ, was not God but the Spirit that resided in that flesh was God. That Spirit had a name, Jesus, that He desires to be known by today.

Paul, a one God Pharisee, who would have thought it heresy to ever say that there was more than one God, met that one God on the road to Damascas and asked His name.

That one God told him His name. He did not say Allah, He did not name Buddha, He named Himself as Jesus.

Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

The name of God is Jesus. People might call Him by other titles but His name is Jesus.

Did he? Because by verse 20 "immediately in the synagogues he was preaching the Christ, that he is the Son of God."

I am wondering that if what you say is true wouldn't Paul/Saul be preaching the Christ, that he WAS God? Maybe it's time for a re-write.

You wish to example John 17. We will read through that together.

Father, the hour hath come, glorify Thy Son (sounds like two different entities here)
and this is the life age-during, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and him whom Thou didst send -- Jesus Christ (sounds like two different entities here too. Jesus got SENT not MANIFESTED)
I did glorify Thee on the earth, the work I did finish that Thou hast given me, that I may do [it]. (ditto here)
because the sayings that Thou hast given to me, I have given to them, and they themselves received, and have known truly, that from Thee I came forth, and they did believe that Thou didst send me (sounds like Jesus was SENT, not "manifested")
And I, the glory that thou hast given to me, have given to them, that they may be one as we are one (seems they are different here too)
Righteous Father, also the world did not know Thee, and I knew Thee, and these have known that Thou didst send me (Jesus got sent in this verse too)

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Eli is the word El with the suffix "i" meaning "My God" or "My Strength"

’Ελωΐ
Elōḯ; interjection from the Aramaic ‛Elāhh (H426), "My God" (Mar_15:34 quoted from Psa_22:2). Our Lord calls God "Eli, Eli" (Mat_27:46), as in Psa_22:1, equivalent to Elōḯ. The "Eli, Eli" of Mat_27:46 represents Hebr. whereas "Elōḯ Elōḯ" of Mar_15:34 represents Aramaic, both meaning "My God" as translated. Matthew's revision conforms to the Hebr. text of Psa_22:1.

Sounds intimidating. Summary: That is who Jesus prayed to

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Sounds intimidating. Summary: That is who Jesus prayed to

What's intimidating about it?

Yes Jesus prayed to God...

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What's intimidating about it?

Yes Jesus prayed to God...

On this issue I believe we are in harmonious agreement. Your post was spot on.

[mfblume]

Allah is not God.

Just saying.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Allah is not God.

Just saying.

You badly need to really buckle down and study your book my friend. Just sayin'

[Luke]

I would suggest that you go to the website fortress of faith and check out the broadcasts there dealing with crislam. One of the men on the program is a former muslim that has renounced allah and islam and now is a Christian pastor. The other host is a former missionary to the uk.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Allah is not God.

Just saying.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

You badly need to really buckle down and study your book my friend. Just sayin'

I understand him to be saying that the God (Allah) of Islam is NOT the same God of the Jews and Christians.