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04-28-2014, 11:51 PM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
I don't generally post for obvious reasons however I have attended some of their meetings enjoyed them. I have no intention of joining. They are more open for fellowship with those who are not in their group. I have been treated very kindly. Their directory is online I think?
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04-29-2014, 08:54 AM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
Having attended several meetings and knowing certain of their constituency, I would not describe the WPF as conservative. They would be moreso moderates.
The Org that they came out of has went so far to the left that anything looks to the right of them.
It is not a bad thing to some that the WPF is more so moderate, and I am only calling it as i see it.
There are some issues that I am personally seeing in them that bother me, mainly in regards to their open proselyting. I have seen this pattern being repeated over and over in this country and other countries where they have a presence.
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04-29-2014, 10:34 AM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
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My answers in red....I am NOT in any way a spokesman for the WPF, however, I do have family who are members and I do attend some of their meetings each year. Are there members who make them look bad....I'm sure there are, just as there are in any group. But for the most part what I have observed are people who love God and their brethren regardless of what card you carry. Oh.....and just in case you want to know.....I have NEVER heard any UPC bashing at ANY meeting I have ever been to. (And I have been to quite a few)
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Bishiop, thanks for the very comprehensive and informative answers to my questions.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-29-2014, 10:44 AM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
In truth I think there is some disappointment. There were about 2000 at their formation meeting and very few signed up. I think they made some major missteps in their infancy that hindered them. Some men hold credentials with them and are yet in the UPC the districts as of now are allowing it. Many who joined were not UPC men but independent guys. Their growth has not been as rapid as they had hoped I am sure. But their meetings are good, they are visitor friendly, their speaker selection is more flexible they use men to preach who are not members. I have never heard the slightest negative reflection made about the UPC in their meetings. They have made it a point not to follow the path the AMF took. To each his own those who feel the need to belong to something and this fills their criteria then wonderful. Not for me.
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04-29-2014, 11:23 AM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
I imagine that being independent allows you to fellowship whomever you choose. It is good to know that the WP is not bashing other organizations. That has to be a plus in their direction.
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04-29-2014, 07:18 PM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
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I imagine that being independent allows you to fellowship whomever you choose. It is good to know that the WP is not bashing other organizations. That has to be a plus in their direction.
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Being Independent does give more latitude on where I go and how long I stay. But when I was in the AMF I fellowshipped who I wanted. Some did not like it but I never did allow them to control me. I guess I am a maverick?
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04-29-2014, 07:29 PM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
Welcome back Elder
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04-29-2014, 11:08 PM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
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Being Independent does give more latitude on where I go and how long I stay. But when I was in the AMF I fellowshipped who I wanted. Some did not like it but I never did allow them to control me. I guess I am a maverick?
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I knew yoiu were a Maverick when I saw you at that AMF meeting several years ago wearing a brown suit in a sea of black ones!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-30-2014, 09:33 AM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Being Independent does give more latitude on where I go and how long I stay. But when I was in the AMF I fellowshipped who I wanted. Some did not like it but I never did allow them to control me. I guess I am a maverick?
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Yup, sounds like you are one of a kind, lol! I guess people just never know where or when you'll show up....
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05-02-2014, 11:14 PM
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Re: Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship
CC1, thanks for asking and Bishop, thanks for answering.
Good information. A family from my home church, that moved to another state, attend a WPF church. I was curious
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