The Constitution is simply that... a nation's Constitution. Might it have been inspired by notions of human liberty as seen in Scripture... perhaps. But it is a human document. I believe that this is another shameless political ploy to lock in gullible religious voters.
I'm not going to argue against influenced biblical principles not having some degree of guidance from God.
If we are Christians we know that God does influence our thinking when we speak and when we write.
Adams says, in a nutshell, "Our general principles allowing us freedom of independence were general principles of Christianity."
He didn't say, "Our general principles allowing us freedom of independence were general principles of atheism, agnosticism, or any other ism."
He said Christianity was the driving principle.
I don't know why we are so gung-ho to throw this issue toward humanism.
I read all of the quotes by the majority of our Founding Fathers in relation to God Almighty and I scratch my head at people who want to relegate the laws written as simply a humanistic endeavor.
I'm not going to argue against influenced biblical principles not having some degree of guidance from God.
If we are Christians we know that God does influence our thinking when we speak and when we write.
Adams says, in a nutshell, "Our general principles allowing us freedom of independence were general principles of Christianity."
He didn't say, "Our general principles allowing us freedom of independence were general principles of atheism, agnosticism, or any other ism."
He said Christianity was the driving principle.
I don't know why we are so gung-ho to throw this issue toward humanism.
I read all of the quotes by the majority of our Founding Fathers in relation to God Almighty and I scratch my head at people who want to relegate the laws written as simply a humanistic endeavor.
Did God write this post?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Most definitely NOT. It's easy to see that there were scriptural principles that went into the forming of the Constitution, but God-breathed on par with scripture? Not even close. It's an offensive suggestion.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Most definitely NOT. It's easy to see that there were scriptural principles that went into the forming of the Constitution, but God-breathed on par with scripture? Not even close. It's an offensive suggestion.
How many Christian writers, songs or books, have said they were given the words by God? How is that any different than what DeLay is saying about the influence our Founding Father's claim when saying "principles" were involved in making our laws. Perhaps "God-breathed" is dramatic language, but I get what he is saying or what he is implying. I'm not offended by what he said at all.
When you read the numerous quotes the majority of our Founding Father's have made concerning God, and the danger they put their lives in by crafting our Constitution, hangable offense, I would be shocked that God did not move through them to get the thing written. It was a solemn time and they were, largely, trusting God with their lives.
James Madison: "It is possible for the man of pious reflection not to preceive in it[the Constitution] a finger of that Almighty hand which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief in the critical stages of the revolution." Federalish No. 17, January 11, 1788.
Now you are just acting like a jerk, respectfully.
He is speaking to a church body.
HE SAID, that the Constitution was written on biblical principles. The quotes I provided by John Adams and from the US Supreme Court 1892, don't disagree with that.
Let's read John Adams once again - “The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity."
How did they achieve independence? With the Declaration of Independence.
Jesus did die to set us free, and the US has always been viewed as a Christian nation.
So, just because he wasn't as eloquent as you'd like on the subject. He isn't totally wrong.
Prove the majority of our Founding Fathers were not religious men and I will laugh with you.
1. Don't call me a jerk, even if you laughably include "respectfully" with it.
2. I understand he was pandering to a religious audience. Really it doesn't matter the "who" he was talking to, what matters is the "what" he said. I gave the actual quotes from Delay, while you're trying to reason and guess at what he meant.
3. This isn't about what John Adams said, it's about what Delay said.
"GOD CREATED THIS NATION"
"HE [God] WROTE THE CONSTITUTION"
You can try to explain those two statements until the sun burns out, but it is what it is. He said what he said. He was pandering. It was dumb. And it's completely wrong.
I see what you did in your reply. You ignored the two statements above and just posted about Delay saying the Constitution was written on biblical principles. I can agree his last quoted statement where he says, "it [the Constitution] is written on biblical principles." But he's completely nuts, and way off, stating that God created this nation or that God wrote the Constitution.
FACT: God didn't write the Constitution.
Even your quote from Adams doesn't go off the deep end like Delay's statement. In fact, it's nowhere close to what Delay stated.
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