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Old 02-05-2014, 06:11 PM
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Re: 23 Million Jobs lost due to ObamaCare!

PO PO PO, still trying to convince yourself that people like yourself not voting for Romney as a matter of principle versus the greater principle (IMO) of keeping the disaster that the Obama presidency has become (as many of us knew) from happening.

With all of the issues I had w Romney, they were a far cry less than Obama. Your logic follows the same line of thinking that says that the Holocaust was worth it because it paved the way for the nation of Israel.

Romney would not have steered America in such a horrible direction. But you'll never agree with that. It's okay. Those of us who know will keep scratching our heads at the twisted logic.

Anything but Obama would've been much much much better. The direction he's taken us I'm afraid in many ways is irreparable.
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PO PO PO, still trying to convince yourself that people like yourself not voting for Romney as a matter of principle versus the greater principle (IMO) of keeping the disaster that the Obama presidency has become (as many of us knew) from happening.

With all of the issues I had w Romney, they were a far cry less than Obama. Your logic follows the same line of thinking that says that the Holocaust was worth it because it paved the way for the nation of Israel.

Romney would not have steered America in such a horrible direction. But you'll never agree with that. It's okay. Those of us who know will keep scratching our heads at the twisted logic.

Anything but Obama would've been much much much better. The direction he's taken us I'm afraid in many ways is irreparable.
Deacon, Deacon, Deacon, Romney lost the election and talking about how much you miss him isn't going to bring him back.
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Great article!

Obama's Work Trap

So let me get this right. Team Obama taxes millionaires who create jobs, while Obamacare creates incentives not to work at those jobs. No wonder recovery is so anemic. The policy here is to create fewer jobs and induce people to work less at those jobs. If my logic is correct, this runs counter to the most basic principles of our economy and our country.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ap_121494.html
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:18 PM
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EXCLUSIVE — Rand Paul: When Will Obama Start Caring?

Americans dream of having jobs that give them enough hours to take care of their families, including providing for their healthcare. Obamacare puts a significant dent in that dream, and Mr. Carney should be ashamed of himself for trying to pretend this disastrous policy is somehow a “choice” for workers.

Obamacare has been many things, but giving Americans more “choice” is not among them. It is a mandate on all of us.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-obamacare-cbo
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:24 PM
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Obama's executive orders are anti-constitutional. The problem is I am not sure what is worse. Obama rewriting laws or a Congress that lets him. As President He does NOT have the authority to change laws, in effect writing laws. Only Congress has that power. His office is supposed to enforce those laws but he refuses to do that as well. Why hasn't he been impeached is my only question.
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Obama's executive orders are anti-constitutional. The problem is I am not sure what is worse. Obama rewriting laws or a Congress that lets him. As President He does NOT have the authority to change laws, in effect writing laws. Only Congress has that power. His office is supposed to enforce those laws but he refuses to do that as well. Why hasn't he been impeached is my only question.
I agree - Congress who is allowing it has the onus on them at the end of the day.
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Deacon, Deacon, Deacon, Romney lost the election and talking about how much you miss him isn't going to bring him back.
No it won't change what's happened, but there are future elections and I hope conservatives and people w traditional values and constitutionalists will consider that sometimes, sometimes having to vote to keep someone from power can be a, albeit less desirable, virtue.

If we don't have a candidate we are thrilled with, we can cast a ballot for them if the contrast between them and the liberal candidate is stark. As unhappy I was about MR being the GOP candidate, his presidency would've been far far better than what we have now.

Let's try to employ long term thinking into our voting rather than short sighted rationalizations.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:12 AM
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EXCLUSIVE — Rand Paul: When Will Obama Start Caring?

Americans dream of having jobs that give them enough hours to take care of their families, including providing for their healthcare. Obamacare puts a significant dent in that dream, and Mr. Carney should be ashamed of himself for trying to pretend this disastrous policy is somehow a “choice” for workers.

Obamacare has been many things, but giving Americans more “choice” is not among them. It is a mandate on all of us.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-obamacare-cbo
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:35 AM
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No it won't change what's happened, but there are future elections and I hope conservatives and people w traditional values and constitutionalists will consider that sometimes, sometimes having to vote to keep someone from power can be a, albeit less desirable, virtue.
There's that "lesser of two evils" mantra once again. We shouldn't have to make that choice in America, Deacon. I wouldn't consider Rand Paul the lesser of any evil. So, that makes a good candidate, if the GOP Establishment allows it.

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If we don't have a candidate we are thrilled with, we can cast a ballot for them if the contrast between them and the liberal candidate is stark. As unhappy I was about MR being the GOP candidate, his presidency would've been far far better than what we have now.

Let's try to employ long term thinking into our voting rather than short sighted rationalizations.
Our country is in a Constitutional crises, Deacon. You need to roll with it. Obama on stage is showing everything wrong with Liberalism, and it is showing WHO in the GOP Establishment is willing to fight. That's not a bad thing. It needs to be done and wouldn't have been done with MR in office, who passed everything, as Governor of MA, that Obama wanted and is passing now.
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:40 AM
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The logic of lesser of two evils is a far cry better than the logic of allowing the greater of two evils to prevail and do irreparable harm to our great nation.

Romney would've had conservatives and Tea Party types to answer to in the congress...the GOP at least has a conservative voice and influence. Obama had two years of complete support from the legislative branch. The seeds were sown for the disaster we are now mired in.

I can't change what's happened. I'm
Just trying to point out the flaw of "teaching the GOP
a lesson". While we split the vote, Democrats win and keep moving the goalposts to the left. With a GOP candidate we at least have a chance for influence. With a Democrat, no chance at all.

Please don't make the same mistake in 2016.
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