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09-17-2013, 03:04 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
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Originally Posted by endtimer
I echo what Aquila said. THis caught my attention "I find it a bit odd that this church has been in existence more than 4 years now and does not have members from the local area."
I immediately wonder: Are these members from other churches? If they are, why are they there now? Could be a source of conflict (differing cultures, beliefs and standards). Why is this church after 4 years not winning souls near by? Not accusing here, but Ive seen plenty of churches happy to take in members of other churches, not win any body new to Christ and still consider them selves a growing church. Again, not accusing just wondering if this is a good situation. I think you are right to find this odd.
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Just because its not growing in numbers is no reason to not go in itself. Christ always put quality above quantity. Very, very few people are interested in the true path of discipleship he offers.
Perhaps probe deeper into his personal doctrinal beliefs. The quickest way in this time to turn people off is to preach truth. Maybe he is a post trib? Maybe believes in soul sleep? Maybe believes in overcoming sin? Try that before you write it off.
And then theres the possibility theres just no zeal or vision? And yet it does not seem to me like you can continue going where you are now. No way.
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09-17-2013, 03:59 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Just because its not growing in numbers is no reason to not go in itself.
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Not to mention the church may be destined for Originalist to arrive and spark a revival...
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09-17-2013, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Just because its not growing in numbers is no reason to not go in itself. Christ always put quality above quantity. Very, very few people are interested in the true path of discipleship he offers.
Perhaps probe deeper into his personal doctrinal beliefs. The quickest way in this time to turn people off is to preach truth. Maybe he is a post trib? Maybe believes in soul sleep? Maybe believes in overcoming sin? Try that before you write it off.
And then theres the possibility theres just no zeal or vision? And yet it does not seem to me like you can continue going where you are now. No way.
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No where in my comments were suggestions that he should not attend. I got a feeling he can figure out what he wants to do with out me suggesting he go or not. I am simply agreeing with him that it is a bit strange to have zero locals going to a church that has been in the area 4 years. I further elaborate on my caution with questions worthy to be addressed. I see you raise a few questions yourself... your questions do not disqualify mine.
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09-17-2013, 05:27 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
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Not to mention the church may be destined for Originalist to arrive and spark a revival...
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but ONLY after they "Come out of her my people" 
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09-17-2013, 05:28 PM
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Not to mention the church may be destined for Originalist to arrive and spark a revival...
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Please elaborate on this. Very curious as to how this could work out.
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09-17-2013, 05:32 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
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Please elaborate on this. Very curious as to how this could work out.
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He stated he already knew and had influence with people in that community (or did I misunderstand??) He is what may be called a 'person of influence', or a man who is 'heard in the gates'.
God may be moving him into a position where his presence and ministry in that local assembly may lead many others to Christ.
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09-17-2013, 05:33 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
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but ONLY after they "Come out of her my people" |
Very funny. I do think you misunderstand my position regarding churches, buildings, 501(c)3, denominations, the work of God, and a lot of things related to those things.
God works on things over time, and we have no choice but to work on things over time, since we are temporal beings.
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09-17-2013, 05:39 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Very funny. I do think you misunderstand my position regarding churches, buildings, 501(c)3, denominations, the work of God, and a lot of things related to those things.
God works on things over time, and we have no choice but to work on things over time, since we are temporal beings.
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We were actually dealing with HER position, not so much yours
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-17-2013, 05:41 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
We were actually dealing with HER position, not so much yours
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Yes, well, is chivalry dead?
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09-17-2013, 05:44 PM
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Re: I visited another church this past weekend
I went to visit a church recently
It was quiet as can be, seriously. There was nobody prais'n the Lord, nobody but me.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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