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Old 10-19-2012, 09:23 AM
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Re: Pentecostal Prophecies Delay Christ's Return

Hmm, just like you got "Rapture!"
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:32 AM
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Re: Pentecostal Prophecies Delay Christ's Return

Whether or not its prophecy or word of knowledge doesn't seem to make much difference. I mean I get your point but this guy made a claim about the future and so have a ton of others and yet they all claim Christ could return tomorrow. How does that even work? Take this one I just recently heard. A girl I know was prophecied over that she would sing to millions and bless even more. So until those millions plus are blessed by her voice, Christ is on hold.

Either the teaching that Christ's return could be any day is false, or we have a bunch of annointed false prophets parading around. And nobody is concerned about it? Its like oh he just misspoke. Don't question the annointed of God.
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Re: Pentecostal Prophecies Delay Christ's Return

If the word of knowledge/wisdom, or prophecy does not come true, obviously it is false. Christ is not sitting around waiting for these things to happen. His body is alive and well, and doesn't depend on one's word of prophecy/wisdom.

As far as not "questioning", I would definitely be in your shoes! Truly I believe that prophecy has become far more than what God intended for it to be after Calvary.

Truly the law and the prophets were until John (Luke 16:16) and then Jesus fulfilled completely the law, and now his spirit speaks to our hearts individually.

I believe that the type of prophecy that we saw in the OT was changed at Calvary, and the Day of Pentecost, and now Christ speaks to our own hearts individually through the Comforter, His Spirit indwelling us. When a prophecy or a Word of Knowledge comes, it should be to CONFIRM something that the spirit has already been dealing with us about. Agabus came to Paul with a word of knowledge and prophecy... but Paul had already heard from God before this, and knew it was a confirmation that he was to go, because first he had already heard the Spirit speak to him.

So, I think this demonstrates that prophecy or a word of knowledge/wisdom comes to us as a confirmation of what the Spirit has already been dealing with us personally about. I don't believe it is necessary for prophecy to foretell future events, because in my opinion, just as you are stating, most of these "prophecies" never come true, are false, and simply emotionalism. (not to say that there are words of knowledge/wisdom that never come true... because I do believe Christ does speak to us in that way also... they just need to be weighed for their truthfulness, and judged) .
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Re: Pentecostal Prophecies Delay Christ's Return

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Either the teaching that Christ's return could be any day is false, or we have a bunch of annointed false prophets parading around. And nobody is concerned about it? Its like oh he just misspoke. Don't question the annointed of God

Joe, I am very concerned about it. The teaching is false. And we are supposed to question Prophecies.
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Either the teaching that Christ's return could be any day is false, or we have a bunch of annointed false prophets parading around. And nobody is concerned about it? Its like oh he just misspoke. Don't question the annointed of God

Joe, I am very concerned about it. The teaching is false. And we are supposed to question Prophecies.
Not only are we to question them but a prophet is to be 100% accurate.
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Not only are we to question them but a prophet is to be 100% accurate.
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Whether or not its prophecy or word of knowledge doesn't seem to make much difference. I mean I get your point but this guy made a claim about the future and so have a ton of others and yet they all claim Christ could return tomorrow. How does that even work? Take this one I just recently heard. A girl I know was prophecied over that she would sing to millions and bless even more. So until those millions plus are blessed by her voice, Christ is on hold.

Either the teaching that Christ's return could be any day is false, or we have a bunch of annointed false prophets parading around. And nobody is concerned about it? Its like oh he just misspoke. Don't question the annointed of God.
Well, we have a bunch of false prophets, no doubt.
I think the antichrist has to stand in the holy place
and proclaim himself God, before Christ returns?
But that is no doubt debatable, like everything else

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If the word of knowledge/wisdom, or prophecy does not come true, obviously it is false...
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Hmm, just like you got "Rapture!"
Sorry; but it is to the point.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:19 AM
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Sorry folks, I hate to break the bad news, but there is no “ immanent return” of Jesus.

We will have to go thru a Religious Persecution, which is forming against us right now. As well as the start of the Great Tribulation, which I don’t believe we will have to endure very long. No where in the Bible does it tell us how long the GT lasts, except that the time will be shortened.

I hate to put this on here and run, but I have to get ready to be gone for about 2 weeks. I will take my laptop with me, and hopefully I can use it.

The Rapture is, The First Resurrection, and this is after the Persecution. I wish that I was wrong on this, but I have studied this for over 50 years, and I see no way around the Persecution facing us. Which will come from the One World Religion.
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Not only are we to question them but a prophet is to be 100% accurate.
1 John 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 5:21, Deuteronomy 18:22

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