BHO LIES about F & F

[AreYouReady?]

Isn't anybody concerned that our government even had such a program...no matter who started it and who continued it?

[Light]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Isn't anybody concerned that our government even had such a program...no matter who started it and who continued it?

Gun Walking

Guns to be sold to thugs who then sell to bigger thugs. A action to catch the big thugs.

Operation WIDE RECEIVER 2006 AD
Operation FAST & FURIOUS 2009 AD

What ever name you wish to call it, GUN WALKING IS GUN WALKING no matter when it started or what name it's called!

It's strange, republicans call any news org. lame stream {other than Fox} now choose to hail ABC as a truth teller.

If it make miss butter field feel better then let's say for all to hear Obama lied.

[deafdriscoll]

all politicians lie, so what is new.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Light

Gun Walking

Guns to be sold to thugs who then sell to bigger thugs. A action to catch the big thugs.

Operation WIDE RECEIVER 2006 AD
Operation FAST & FURIOUS 2009 AD

What ever name you wish to call it, GUN WALKING IS GUN WALKING no matter when it started or what name it's called!

It's strange, republicans call any news org. lame stream {other than Fox} now choose to hail ABC as a truth teller.

If it make miss butter field feel better then let's say for all to hear Obama lied.

Do you have a link for when WIDE RECEIVER guns actually ended up in the hands of drug runners who then shot ICE agents with our own guns and then the government tried to cover it up?

[Light]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Do you have a link for when WIDE RECEIVER guns actually ended up in the hands of drug runners who then shot ICE agents with our own guns and then the government tried to cover it up?

Typical of you. You are playing a word game just as ABC news did.
Obama said the program started under Bush, which is true, but with a differnt name,(WIDE RECIEVER).
When Obama used the words FAST AND FURIOUS as starting in the Bush administration he was wrong in his wording but not about the gun walking program.

Page 29 of U.S. Department of Justice Review of ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious and Related Matters

Operations Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious were investigations of straw purchasers involved in trafficking firearms to Mexico.

[n david]

I wanted to keep the scandals separate and not get sidetracked on several in one thread... From the "IRS Smoking Gun" thread:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

"Fast and Furious" was not a technique that was original Holder's tenure.

You use a play on words to try to help Obama and the admin out. TECHNICALLY, gunwalking started under previous administrations. TECHNICALLY, Holder didn't come up with the original idea. However, the Fast and Furious program was the idea and operation of Holder's DOJ.

Please read THIS LINK and THIS LINK

This is yet another LIE from Obama and his administration. And this is an absolute lie, can't try to explain it away, Jermyn. Straight from Obama:

“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration,” the president said. “When Eric Holder found out about it, he discontinued it. We assigned a inspector general to do a thorough report that was just issued, confirming that in fact Eric Holder did not know about this, that he took prompt action and the people who did initiate this were held accountable.”

That's a LIE. GWB's DOJ had a gunwalking operation called Operation Wide Receiver. Like F&F, it was a stupid idea (although no one got killed during its op, unlike F&F).

Fast and Furious was started in 2009, nine months into Obama's presidency. It was NOT started under the previous administration.

Also, since you, Light and DM say gun walking started with W...read this LINK. Gun walking has been around in various forms since the CLINTON administration and it's AG Janet Reno.

There was:

a similar Minnestoa operation in 1996 where “more than 150 guns flow[ed] into the Twin Cities underworld,” Kevin Diaz of the Star Tribune reported yesterday. Identifying supervisor George Gillett, Jr., who is now a cooperating witness in House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform investigations, Diaz reveals “Gillett was a street agent tracking gun store sales to ‘straw buyers’ working for suspected gang members. Some of those guns turned up in drug busts and crime scenes, including one that was found at the scene of a deadly shootout in north Minneapolis.”

[n david]

What's odd, is Holder and Obama are trying to say, well the previous administration was the one who started it. True, TECHNICALLY W's DOJ started Operation Wide Receiver, which was an incredibly stupid idea to sell a massive number of guns to someone who passed a background check, who then gave them to the cartel in Mexico. Dumb idea. I don't know why the suits didn't see the problems that would happen.

But what's odd, is Obama says Holder ended Operation Wide Receiver; yet, Obama's DOJ begins it's OWN op and calls it Fast & Furious. Same premise. Same type of op, just a different name.

Then it went bad and agents were killed, along with possibly hundreds of others in Mexico. Now Obama and Holder want to deflect any responsibility and typically blame the previous administration for the scandal.

But they can't do it, because they started Fast & Furious -- the same program, with the only difference being the change in name to deceive people into thinking they quit the gun walking program.

Obama and this admin are in deep with lies and deception on this and all the other current scandals.