The Canon of Scripture

[Timmy]

[Enow]

Originally Posted by Esaias

How do we know what books are in fact 'inspired', and are the Word of God?

How is the canon of Scripture to be determined, assuming you do NOT accept as inspired and God-directed the decrees of those various catholic 'ecumenical' Councils of churches/bishops which are often touted by Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant theologians as being 'authoritative'?

First off: put aside the rumors of the Catholic church having its way with the KJV since there are verses in the KJV that reproves all of the works of catholicism. I can't speak for modern Bibles, and so that is why I am focussing on the KJV.

Second: Jesus said that scripture cannot be broken. Jesus quoted from it and testified of how those that loved Him and keep His sayings, will keep the sayings of His disciples. John 15:20 Since there is an urgency for us to continue in His words as His disciples, it stands to His will and promise that we would have them.

So what are the guidelines?

#1) Lean on the Good Shepherd to help you discern.

#2) Scripture cannot go against scripture. That is what was used to prune away the lost books of the Bible and the Apocrypha* ( *which the KJV translators did not regard them as scripture and thus inserted inbetween the OT and the NT as a historical reference index ).

#3) What about modern Bibles? The same guideline should be used. If the message changed from the way the KJV has it, then how does that change line up with the rest of scripture: even the ones in the modern Bibles to determine which message is the right one: the KJV or not?

Only God can show how the KJV is helping keep the meat of His words when in comparison to other modern Bibles, especially when those changes in modern Bibles support false teachings and apostasy whereas the KJV retaining that message reproves such false teachings and exposes apostasy.

Since keeping the faith is the good fight as we are led by the Spirit of God to testify of the Son in seeking His glory: then the Bible God wants us to have should serve to that end as well in the testimonies within. John 5:39-40

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Timmy

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[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So far, only Timmy has actually posed an answer to my original question!



So, for the others, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE CANON OF SCRIPTURE?

I realise there have been debates about what should and should not be included in 'the Bible'. I understand that.

My question, though, is how is the Canon to be determined?

Thanks!

Well, there is one person here who would say, with a straight face, roll the dice.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Well, there is one person here who would say, with a straight face, roll the dice.

[Pandora]

Originally Posted by Sam

The Apostle Peter considered the writings of Paul to be scripture per 2 Peter 3:15-16.

Paul claimed in 1 Corinthians 14:36-37 that what he wrote were the commandments of God and were to be taken as such over the "traditions" that the Corinthians had written to him which he quoted in verses 34-35 of that same chapter.

In 1 Timothy 5:18 Paul quoted from Deuteronomy 25:4 and from Luke 10:7 and spoke of both passages as "Scripture."

- We'ver believed that Peter considered
the epistles of Paul as Scripture in 2 Peter 3:15-16.

But, one must account what it was Peter was referring to in Paul's epistles.
It was the same things which Peter was referring to "spoken before of the Holy Prophets an The Commandments given to The Apostles 0f The Lord.'
2Pet.3:1,2 Peter was sturring their mind up to "These Things". - v.16

What was These Things? - 2Pet.3:1-14 The Common knowledge of 'The Promise 0f His Coming" and "The Perdition of Ungodly Men". As spoken Before by The Holy Prophets and The Commandments given to The Apostels of The Lord Jesus Christ. Paul spoke no new things as scripture. He was speaking in his epistles of These Things. And some of These Things were from the Old Testament Holy Prophets.