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Old 07-11-2012, 03:31 PM
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it won't be a law unless the senate ratifies. more misinformation from you. what's new?
Since when does Emperor Obama need the legislative branch?
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:24 PM
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Are any of you aware that George Soros is funding and PUSHING for gun control through the UN. Hilary and Obama welcomes global gun bans. Also, could include ammituntion controls.

According to Kevin Danielsen Obama and Hillary have already vowed to sign such a treaty. In fact, both have largely been working behind closed doors, as they know full-well that Americans would surely show staunch resistance if their agenda committed to "open war".

The disarmament of the American peole will signal the beginning of the end of any semblance of freedom we have left. As the saying goes, "Hitler, Stalin and Mao agree...gun control works."

They are meeting in NY this week with the UN, planning on signing away the sovernity of the US to the UN. No surprise here.

How will you respond IF they do in fact, pass such an unconstitutional law?
That's not going to happen. Even though the US Constitution allows for a President to enter a treaty with other nations, the Senate has to approve by a two-thirds majority. IOW, they need more than the normal 60 votes. They need to have 67. Too many Democrats are up for re-election in states where gun control is important. What that means is that if all the Democrats voted in favor, they would still need 14 Republicans to also vote in favor. It's just not going to happen.
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:35 PM
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That's not going to happen. Even though the US Constitution allows for a President to enter a treaty with other nations, the Senate has to approve by a two-thirds majority. IOW, they need more than the normal 60 votes. They need to have 67. Too many Democrats are up for re-election in states where gun control is important. What that means is that if all the Democrats voted in favor, they would still need 14 Republicans to also vote in favor. It's just not going to happen.
I hope you are right, however, they have managed to underhandedly get everything else they want. Even pushing bills without them being read! Who would have ever thought that possible.

Then when Rand Paul tried to make a motion to follow exisiting law and read the documents before voting on them and he was shot down.

I don't trust anything this wanabee dictator does or tries to do. If it is not possible then why are they talking it? Or do you think it is a smoke screen for something else?
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:36 PM
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can you link an article? not sure how credible your story is.
There are articles all over the net, just google.
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There are articles all over the net, just google.
yes there are and there are the nuts who believe anything!!!!!

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Old 07-11-2012, 07:14 PM
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Gun control is high on the agenda of liberal politicians.
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:40 PM
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Gun control is high on the agenda of liberal politicians.
fast and furious was to prove we needed gun control
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:49 PM
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I hope you are right, however, they have managed to underhandedly get everything else they want. Even pushing bills without them being read! Who would have ever thought that possible.

Then when Rand Paul tried to make a motion to follow exisiting law and read the documents before voting on them and he was shot down.

I don't trust anything this wanabee dictator does or tries to do. If it is not possible then why are they talking it? Or do you think it is a smoke screen for something else?
LOST is another issue on the table with the UN, but opposition is growing.

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Opposition to Law of the Sea Treaty Continues to Rise

Strong opposition is rising in the U.S. Senate to the U.N.’s Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) that would subjugate American sovereignty to the whims of an international tribunal. To date, 30 Republican senators have signed onto a letter opposing LOST. It takes 67 votes to approve treaties in the Senate, so only 34 votes are needed to ensure defeat of this misguided treaty.

http://www.demint.senate.gov/public/...arDisplay=2012
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Are any of you aware that George Soros is funding and PUSHING for gun control through the UN. Hilary and Obama welcomes global gun bans. Also, could include ammituntion controls.

According to Kevin Danielsen Obama and Hillary have already vowed to sign such a treaty. In fact, both have largely been working behind closed doors, as they know full-well that Americans would surely show staunch resistance if their agenda committed to "open war".

The disarmament of the American peole will signal the beginning of the end of any semblance of freedom we have left. As the saying goes, "Hitler, Stalin and Mao agree...gun control works."

They are meeting in NY this week with the UN, planning on signing away the sovernity of the US to the UN. No surprise here.

How will you respond IF they do in fact, pass such an unconstitutional law?
So much of what you type is fear-mongering based in falsehoods and far out conspiracies.

The Treaty in question does nothing against gun owners in America who own their guns lawfully.

Furthermore, neither Hillary, Barack, or the U.N. can do what you are implying.


You spew junk that fuels an irrational disdain for the current Administration.


You and the people who feed you are no worst a nemesis to thoughtful discourse concerning this Administration as Hollywood was to GWB.

They were irrational in some of their criticisms-- but the Patriot Act and it's true freedom-limiting guidelines were passed under the "watchful eye" of a Republican White House, Senate and House of Representatives. Go figure!

Given the antics, exaagerations and lies perceived to have occurred under GWB's Adminstration, Hollywood's, the Democrats' and Independents' true disdain for GWB didn't begin to truly manifest itself NATIONALLY until the latter third of GWB's Presidency-- after two wars, many mistakes, and TRILLIONS of DOLLARS SPENT BUT UNACCOUNTED on the GWOT.


From day 1 of this Administration's term in office, you and the others you feed off of have been RELENTLESS in irrational exaagerations and criticisms of all things concerning this Administration.

The collected antics of you and the others you feed off of will only drive away the rational, solid, pricipled voters known as "Independents"-- who read the fears and refuse to even sip the poison of irrational discourse on irrational conspiracies, groundless criticisms, and accusations with barely a shred of any verity to them.


Romney can only be seen as benign and thus attractive as a candidate as long as the fear mongerers and the irrational far right nimcompoops can stay quiet enough to not cloud the national political discourse with their tripe.

Some people who call themselves Republican should be muzzled until AFTER the election, so that the Republicans can win.


If irrational discourse and fear mongering is what America wanted, then the powers that be in the GOP would have pushed for Trump-- but Romney is our national face!

And why would that be? Why would A milque-toast, flip-flopping, out-of-touch gazziolionaire be our Party's nominee for President?


Because most Americans are tired of far right stupidity!

Though I may criticize Romney, he is NOTHING like GWB's caricature, and nothing like the stereotypical gun-slinging, tobaccy spitting, scripture quoting, hypocritical, war mongering, ignorant sounding, cocky quipping and posturing bigot that so many IN OUR COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD picture our Party to represent.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:30 PM
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JD - I perceive you as somewhat the opposite of those who constantly oppose BHO and his policies.
You have seemed determined to defend BHO and his policies, almost no matter the position.
And to attack those who oppose him.
Why?
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