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04-25-2012, 01:02 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
Ann Coulter on Newt vs. Romney (January blog post):
"Romney is "moderate" only in demeanor -- which is just another word game. His positions are more conservative than Gingrich's, but he doesn't scare people like Gingrich does. Ronald Reagan and Jesse Helms were moderate in demeanor, too. No one would call them political moderates.
Romney is the most electable candidate not only because it will be nearly impossible for the media to demonize this self-made Mormon square, devoted to his wife and church, but precisely because he is the most conservative candidate.
Conservatism is an electable quality. Hotheaded arrogance is neither conservative nor attractive to voters."
Also of interest, from the same blog:
"For those of you who still think Romneycare is the worst possible sin a Republican candidate could commit -- even worse than taking money from Freddie Mac as it destroyed the economy -- that doesn't help Gingrich: He supported Romneycare.
(While we're on the subject, the nation's leading conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, helped draft Romneycare. Indeed, Bob Moffit, Heritage's senior fellow on health care issues, can be seen in the picture of the bill-signing ceremony, standing proudly behind Romney.)
But Gingrich did more than support Romneycare. As former senator Rick Santorum has pointed out, Gingrich supported a FEDERAL individual mandate to purchase health insurance from 1993 until five minutes ago -- i.e., at least until a "Meet the Press" appearance just last May."
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04-25-2012, 01:11 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Ann Coulter on Newt vs. Romney (January blog post):
"Romney is "moderate" only in demeanor -- which is just another word game. His positions are more conservative than Gingrich's, but he doesn't scare people like Gingrich does. Ronald Reagan and Jesse Helms were moderate in demeanor, too. No one would call them political moderates.
Romney is the most electable candidate not only because it will be nearly impossible for the media to demonize this self-made Mormon square, devoted to his wife and church, but precisely because he is the most conservative candidate.
Conservatism is an electable quality. Hotheaded arrogance is neither conservative nor attractive to voters."
Also of interest, from the same blog:
"For those of you who still think Romneycare is the worst possible sin a Republican candidate could commit -- even worse than taking money from Freddie Mac as it destroyed the economy -- that doesn't help Gingrich: He supported Romneycare.
(While we're on the subject, the nation's leading conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, helped draft Romneycare. Indeed, Bob Moffit, Heritage's senior fellow on health care issues, can be seen in the picture of the bill-signing ceremony, standing proudly behind Romney.)
But Gingrich did more than support Romneycare. As former senator Rick Santorum has pointed out, Gingrich supported a FEDERAL individual mandate to purchase health insurance from 1993 until five minutes ago -- i.e., at least until a "Meet the Press" appearance just last May."
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And don't forget the commercial with Pelosi about Global Warming.
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04-25-2012, 01:16 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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And don't forget the commercial with Pelosi about Global Warming.
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HOW DID I MISS THIS CLASSIC BIT? Hilarious. Cute name change: wecansolveit.org is now called "climate realityproject.org." LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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04-25-2012, 01:21 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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I haven't looked into the accusation of lies on Romney's part, he may have and I don't like any leader or potential one who lies. Believe me, out of the final four, Romney was my least favorite. Santorum was my first choice, then it would've been Paul, then Gingrich, then Romney.
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My only non-mainstream candidate choice was Herman Cain, but he disappointed me. Gingrich is good at arguing, but I'm not convinced he'd make a good president, and I'm not happy about his past. Santorum I like, but he would have been perceived as too religiously conservative to be electable by the mainstream voter. (IMO) Romney isn't my favorite because he is a middle-of-the-roader, BUT he has more charisma than McCain, so that could take him somewhere. It has obviously brought him this far. I'm completely nonplussed by the fact that he's Mormon. I have a lot of Mormons in my family. They are wonderful people in spite of what I consider to be kooky religious beliefs.
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My reservations about Gingrich had to do with his past infidelities, although that in and of itself is not a complete deal breaker for me. It's that coupled with his arrogance that kept me from voting for him. But based on your criteria, honesty, how could you look beyond Newt's three marriages and the cheating he committed on his wife? And he was cheating while crucifying Clinton for doing the same---add hypocrisy to the list.
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Infidelity and immorality are not necessarily deal breakers for me, either. I wasn't all that perturbed about McCain's divorce years ago. Many a great leader has had personal struggles and vices. It doesn't make me confident about that person, though. It shows a lack of discipline and judgment.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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04-25-2012, 02:24 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I already posted this information. And why reboot? I'm not supporting Romney - ever. I might vote for him in the fall. Depends on how many more lies he tells between now and then.
If he apologizes to Newt for his dishonest, lying character assassination and/or pays off his debt, I might be inclined to vote for him.
Newt knew it was a long shot and so did I, but I supported him because I believed and still believe him to be the best candidate.
I certainly wasn't going to go for a candidate just because I thought he could win. If I did that, I would have voted for Obama last time around.
And I certainly wasn't going to go for a candidate that the Elitist crowd endorsed. I mean, it's like, "Here's your sign." LOL!
But, go for it. Status quo is working in America. We can't tell much difference between the parties anymore.
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Newt understand it is all politics, PO, why can't you. I understand that you are disappointed. So am I, I had hope the our governor, Rick Perry would run away with this thing, did not. I also, considered both Newt and Rick S, but in the big picture Mitt is the very best candidate among these guys at this time. And I believe he is a good choice for the GOP, and the country.
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04-25-2012, 02:36 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
My only non-mainstream candidate choice was Herman Cain, but he disappointed me. Gingrich is good at arguing, but I'm not convinced he'd make a good president, and I'm not happy about his past. Santorum I like, but he would have been perceived as too religiously conservative to be electable by the mainstream voter. (IMO) Romney isn't my favorite because he is a middle-of-the-roader, BUT he has more charisma than McCain, so that could take him somewhere. It has obviously brought him this far. I'm completely nonplussed by the fact that he's Mormon. I have a lot of Mormons in my family. They are wonderful people in spite of what I consider to be kooky religious beliefs.
Infidelity and immorality are not necessarily deal breakers for me, either. I wasn't all that perturbed about McCain's divorce years ago. Many a great leader has had personal struggles and vices. It doesn't make me confident about that person, though. It shows a lack of discipline and judgment.
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I agree with most of what you post Miss. B, however infidelity and immorality is a serious issue for me. I don't like that it is excepted as normal in our leaders, that is one reason I believe Harry Truman was one of our greatest presidents in spite of being a Democrat. I do accept Newts repentance as real, but I was very disappointed with his fading and whining in some of the debates.
I believe Mitt's character and his conservative Mormon faith will serve the country well, though I agree with you view of the kooky stuff.
Be easy on PO, she is solid at heart, and will support the GOP candidate as least with her vote. Do no harm could be her motto!! LOL
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04-25-2012, 02:53 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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You're so sure what? What, PO? In my house, when you say "I'm so sure" it means you think someone is lying.
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I agree with that.
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04-25-2012, 02:55 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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Newt understand it is all politics, PO, why can't you. .
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I do understand that.
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Be easy on PO, she is solid at heart, and will support the GOP candidate as least with her vote. Do no harm could be her motto!! LOL
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Thank you, crakjak!
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04-25-2012, 03:17 PM
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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I agree with that.
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I don't deserve to be called a liar just because you're upset about Newt. Really. That kind of behavior is beneath you. I think.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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04-25-2012, 03:18 PM
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Not riding the train
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Re: Newt to Suspend Campaign on May 1!
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I don't deserve to be called a liar just because you're upset about Newt. Really. That kind of behavior is beneath you. I think.
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It would be beneath me to answer your question with a lie. That's why I don't support Romney. Is that why you support him?
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