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04-23-2012, 12:23 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
The law of the land is that everybody is entitled to his day in court, to face their accuser, and to be tried by a jury of their peers.
Seems to me that this could be considered to be a modern day call for lynching.
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04-23-2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
It is probably illegal against the Judge, not sure about Zimmerman. I am sure a lot of judges get these kinds of threats.
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04-23-2012, 12:52 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
Interesting to see the diff in this and the Norwegian response.
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04-23-2012, 01:23 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
Sorry. Will have time to post tonight.
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04-23-2012, 01:26 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Sorry. Will have time to post tonight.
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04-23-2012, 09:16 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
There are exceptions to the general rules- such as making an improbable threat against the president would probably earn you an extended stay at hotel Gitmo. Kinda same principle as don't make jokes about bombs at the airport...
But generally speaking- Inciting to riot is pretty much impossible to charge unless in the wake of a riot...
Also generally speaking the most difficult element to prove in an assault like terroristic threat ( as it's called in Texas) is immediacy. For example someone SHOULD kill him does not qualify and would be protected first amendment speech...
If there is violence and it can be directly attributed to a quote (very unlikely) it might be possible for a tort action.
To be criminal it would pretty much need to be a direct immediate reasonably believable threat. Or offer to pay bounty to injure or kill. Etc...
In other words very high and difficult standard for public speech to reach criminal level...
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04-23-2012, 10:20 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
So, at face value, the Zimmerman threats on twitter and the New Black Panther signs are legal?
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04-23-2012, 10:59 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
See that's the problem you can't look at them at face value, it's a balancing test.
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04-23-2012, 11:13 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
The only silver lining of the Obama justice department ignoring he death threats of the New Black Panther Party towards Zimmerman is it is one more demonstration of how racist the Obama administration is and hopefully people will take note before voting in November.
There is a clear pattern or ignoring Black on white crime and Black extremist crimes like this one and the 2008 New Black Panther voter intimidation that the Obama / Holder justice department did not prosecute.
the KKK and New Black Panther party are both morons and both should be prosecuted for death threats and attempts to incite violence when it happens. Apparently the Obama admin thinks things like this are only a crime when white idiots do it.
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04-24-2012, 10:31 PM
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Re: Threats to Kill, Legal?
It is sickening how Black on White crime is ignored in situations like this. This is a perversion of our justice system. The whole weight of the justice system should have been brought to bear on the NBPP and erased it and its atrocities from the record. If the Feds will not act, then the states should respond to eliminate the threat, just as they did the KKK.
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