The War on Moms

[canam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Hello, Mr. Etch-a-Sketch! What a flip-flopping........



Oh yeah, my friends and I are sending this to Fox News and especially to Brit Hume! Hahahahahahaha! What a hoot! Hello pot! Meet kettle!

as opposed to living off the dole ,no smoking gun here.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by canam

as opposed to living off the dole ,no smoking gun here.

On its own, there’s nothing particularly interesting about this admission. It’s more or less a position that both parties have shared since the 1996 welfare reform bill. But this week, Washington was gripped by an inane microscandal over a tweet by CNN contributor and Democratic consultant Hilary Rosen, who said Ann Romney had never worked “a day in her life.” The Romney campaign, hoping to make up its deficit among women voters, jumped on the comment. “I happen to believe that all moms are working moms,” said Romney.

It turns out he doesn’t. If you’re a poor mother in Massachusetts and you go to sign up for TANF, you’ll see you need to fulfill a “work requirement.” And you cannot fulfill it by being “a mom.” And that’s because of policy that Romney signed into law in Massachusetts, and Bill Clinton signed into law nationally.

[canam]

Which is how it should be, its called workfare from the Reagan admin.,no free rides anymore.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Rosen was correct, Ann has no clue what it feels like to struggle economically. She wasn't talking about her children or her motherhood. The right media grabbed the opportunity as well, because it works regardless of substance.

That's assuming you know the Romney's entire history. Mitt did not inherit his dad's wealth, he earned his wealth on his own merits. So there may have been a time when they were young, newly married that financial struggle was a part of their lives, I don't know. But Rosen doesn't know, nor do you what their lives have been like. Simply because they have been enormously successful doesn't mean they don't know struggle or difficulty. And it's an assumption that Rosen, a liberal lesbian Democratic consultant, who is shown in the White House visitors record as having been to the WH more than Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, has a greater knowledge of what women care about and how they struggle. What's Rosen's story? Did she come from poverty or the working class? How does she or the Democrat Party presume to know better than anyone else how women feel and what they are thinking? Women in America are not monolithic. There's quite a bit of diversity among them. They don't vote en masse. I think the attack on Ann Romney was stupid and even the administration recognized this and began castigating Rosen I mediately. I doubt she'll be seen in the WH any time in this election cycle if ever again.

As far as the Romney campaign jumping on this, there's nothing sinister about it. It's smart politics and it's a gift-wrapped opportunity to point out the hypocrisy and inconsistency of the Obama administration.

Women working in the WH make 18% less than their male counterparts. The average income for women in the WH is $60,000 compared to $71,000 for men. Of the top 20 earners in the WH only six are women.

I guess there's a war on women right within the walls of the WH...

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by canam

Which is how it should be, its called workfare from the Reagan admin.,no free rides anymore.

I agree with the no free rides, but his comment is unfortunate in his chosen fight - "War on Moms", in that, he says about the mom's role - "but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work."

The Dems are going to have a field day with that.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

That's assuming you know the Romney's entire history. Mitt did not inherit his dad's wealth, he earned his wealth on his own merits. So there may have been a time when they were young, newly married that financial struggle was a part of their lives, I don't know. But Rosen doesn't know, nor do you what their lives have been like. Simply because they have been enormously successful doesn't mean they don't know struggle or difficulty. And it's an assumption that Rosen, a liberal lesbian Democratic consultant, who is shown in the White House visitors record as having been to the WH more than Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, has a greater knowledge of what women care about and how they struggle. What's Rosen's story? Did she come from poverty or the working class? How does she or the Democrat Party presume to know better than anyone else how women feel and what they are thinking? Women in America are not monolithic. There's quite a bit of diversity among them. They don't vote en masse. I think the attack on Ann Romney was stupid and even the administration recognized this and began castigating Rosen I mediately. I doubt she'll be seen in the WH any time in this election cycle if ever again.

As far as the Romney campaign jumping on this, there's nothing sinister about it. It's smart politics and it's a gift-wrapped opportunity to point out the hypocrisy and inconsistency of the Obama administration.

Women working in the WH make 18% less than their male counterparts. The average income for women in the WH is $60,000 compared to $71,000 for men. Of the top 20 earners in the WH only six are women.

I guess there's a war on women right within the walls of the WH...

Ann's exact words - "Maybe I have’t struggled as much financially as some people have."

The point of the conversation is the economic struggle raising children. Please try to stay on point.

[Pressing-On]

Now Forbes has picked it up.

Mitt Romney Says 'Dignity Of Work' Only Available To Women In The Paid Workforce

The Governor’s suggestion that there is dignity in the work done by women who stay home to raise their kids (this week’s meme) but, apparently, only when they have sufficient financial resources to do so, completely proves the point Ms. Rosen sought to make—even if her comments were inartfully uttered.

Rosen was not demeaning the importance of full-time parents and everyone knows that. She was, however, pointing out that Mrs. Romney might not have the best perspective when it comes to the difficulties of wanting to be a full-time mother when forced, as a result of financial reality, to enter the workforce.

It’s Ann Romney’s husband who appears to not have a solid grip on what he believes in this regard, or is—yet again—simply changing his pitch to fit what he believes to be the winning narrative of the day.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...aid-workforce/

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Ann's exact words - "Maybe I have’t struggled as much financially as some people have."

The point of the conversation is the economic struggle raising children. Please try to stay on point.

So Ann tells Mitt that women care about economic issues and she's wrong how? Because she's wealthy she can't speak the obvious? Because she hasn't struggled like other women it doesn't give her any credibility to say that women are concerned about economic issues?

I say Ann is right and Mitt will do well to listen to that advice and stay off the contraception issues and abortion issues and focus on job creation and sound fiscal policy. Rosen's attempt to criticize Ann is stupid regardless of what she meant to say. Ann no doubt is share, intelligent and a person of excellent character. And if the Dems and Romney opponents want to keep whipping her, go for it, it will only help the Romney campaign.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

So Ann tells Mitt that women care about economic issues and she's wrong how? Because she's wealthy she can't speak the obvious? Because she hasn't struggled like other women it doesn't give her any credibility to say that women are concerned about economic issues?

I say Ann is right and Mitt will do well to listen to that advice and stay off the contraception issues and abortion issues and focus on job creation and sound fiscal policy. Rosen's attempt to criticize Ann is stupid regardless of what she meant to say. Ann no doubt is share, intelligent and a person of excellent character. And if the Dems and Romney opponents want to keep whipping her, go for it, it will only help the Romney campaign.

"It’s Ann Romney’s husband who appears to not have a solid grip on what he believes in this regard, or is—yet again—simply changing his pitch to fit what he believes to be the winning narrative of the day."

[deacon blues]

He said there's dignity in work. Okay...I fail to see the controversy here...