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Old 04-06-2012, 12:57 PM
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Re: Loving the Unlovable:

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Aquila, the Lord showed me last year these very same things. It is one thing to say I love someone, but in the way I look at them, and judge them, do I really love them, through the Spirit of Christ is dwelling in me?

IF the Spirit of Christ is truly indwelling my heart, the love would come for that soul, through the Spirit, not my own attempts or abilities.

That is why, when I meet, or know someone unlovable, I have to go back to my prayer closet, and allow the Lord Jesus to transform my heart, so that I can love that person through Him. It can't be done any other way. We can humanly try to love each other, but it just brings despair. But when we see people through the eyes of Jesus, there is hope, and there is joy, and there is something greater than any human emotion can produce. It is life changing.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! You are SPOT ON

AMEN!
Amen again! Yet the common model has your preacher as the one pointing out these "inadequacies," and would suggest that you avoid those people as "unproductive" to your life?
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:02 PM
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were not suppose to be able to do it.
I disagree. I am great at lighting up dimmed faces without being codependent, and I imagine, and even see that those of you who never had to deal with codependence are even better. Unless I am totally misunderstanding.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:12 PM
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I disagree. I am great at lighting up dimmed faces without being codependent, and I imagine, and even see that those of you who never had to deal with codependence are even better. Unless I am totally misunderstanding.
To truely love as Christ is beyond our natural ability, it comes by revelation and empowerment from above.
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Re: Loving the Unlovable:

Ha you can be hip deep in it tomorrow,
and while what you say might remain true in a sense,
there is another that might more fully agree with
be perfect...
Turn toward where most turn away.

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wait-you're a girl? and hmm, I usually agree with either of you?
I have not been a girl for over 40 years.

I am a mature woman whose been through much of the stuff you described that you've been through. Will I qualify to be a sister in the Lord with you?
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:39 PM
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I have not been a girl for over 40 years.

I am a mature woman whose been through much of the stuff you described that you've been through. Will I qualify to be a sister in the Lord with you?
lol, sure--I shoulda realized anyway, duh.
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lol, sure--I shoulda realized anyway, duh.
Good. Even though I have to read some of your posts three or four times to understand what you are trying to convey...you make me smile a lot.
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Re: Loving the Unlovable:

1 John 4:7-8 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

I really believe he wasn't talking about a specific group of people, not just our brothers. I believe he was talking to and about all here. We are to love everyone, from our best friend to our "worst enemy", of course we are to have no enemies. But the person we dislike the most, we can hate their sin, and hate that they are bound, but we are to love them. I had to come to terms with this, as I have had wrong done to me in my life. But praise God, I love those who did me wrong.
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Ha you can be hip deep in it tomorrow,
and while what you say might remain true in a sense,
there is another that might more fully agree with
be perfect...
Turn toward where most turn away.
Huh? Can someone interpret this for me?
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Huh? Can someone interpret this for me?
"There is a sense in which you are perfect, or at least can not become any more perfect on your knees, but in the field" is what I was trying to say.
Was I perfect in all my actions today--surely not. Did the lady with the baby, scared of her mate, who needed a safehouse, care if I was "apostolic" or not? Care if I had trimmed my hair or not? Care how long my dress was? Did she care that I had forgotten the number, had to look it up?

That already describes what she is running from. Conditional Salvation. Jesus didn't not go to the woman in the well because she had not met some condition; that was irrelevant to His walking many miles to see her. All (we) have to do is turn in that direction, as this woman is everywhere now.

Note all the conditions He placed on her; "Go (hmm, no "Stop"), and sin no more."

"Stop, for fear of hell." Does this describe the sermon you might hear on a typical church day? I'm mixing topics here, but "I'm not worthy yet, I need to re-repent some more first" comes from that, and I'm finding it reflected here. You surely are over-the-top perfect, if you are reading this, for what is needed right now--as evidence, I present the fact that you are here right now--and I certainly couldn't imagine three better people.

Now, one could go get ordained as a result of this, wherein they would surely then have conflicts that would prevent them even talking to this woman, like the leaders of the day (prolly a death sentence), or one can see that the only thing that = "not worthy" is "not going."
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