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Old 02-06-2012, 10:07 AM
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Re: What Are You Preparing For?

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I have considered buying a few survivalist books and starting to stockpile nonperishable items and bottled water, batteries, fuel, etc in the event that civil unrest does become a reality. I wouldn't be surprised if there was another financial meltdown resulting in worse conditions than the last one in 08. Ifthe banking industry burst then theres a good chance we all would find ourselves without any money. It could be a repeat of the bank runs a century ago.

If it is widespread, people may just turn violent. I'd like to be somewhat prepared and able to hunker down in my home and wait it out safely with enough supplies to keep my family secure.
Well, I'd like to suggest, having gone all the way down this road, bought colloidal silver to replace foul water and antibiotics, the whole bit, that this is self-reliance, and God can take better care of you. This is preparing for Armageddon, which I completely understand, but if you will ("collective" you, here), please contrast this to preparing for a Wedding, Jay would say "revival," amen.

At the same time, I don't wish to put down self reliance, buying colloidal silver was the best thing I ever did there, but would like to highlight that buying a private island, if you are able, or hunkering down in a "safe" spot with the fam is just not what we are called to do, as tempting as that is, and as much "common sense" as that seems to make.

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Old 02-06-2012, 11:27 AM
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Re: What Are You Preparing For?

A Wedding is coming! When those who are preparing for Armageddon "witness" you joyfully preparing for a Wedding, and relying on your Father for your needs, miracles will happen in your life.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:31 AM
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Re: What Are You Preparing For?

What witness will it be however, if one neglects to prepare for life on earth beyond the next few years and they find themselves with nothing and wind up begging in the streets? Is it a better witness to prepare for the very worst and be supplied (thereby giving some the impression you aren't trusting in God) or not prepare at all and find yourself a beggar with nothing but relying on God?

Perhaps reliance on God includes USING ones common sense and preservation instincts and taking care to prepare for possible future problems.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:24 PM
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What witness will it be however, if one neglects to prepare for life on earth beyond the next few years and they find themselves with nothing and wind up begging in the streets? Is it a better witness to prepare for the very worst and be supplied (thereby giving some the impression you aren't trusting in God) or not prepare at all and find yourself a beggar with nothing but relying on God?

Perhaps reliance on God includes USING ones common sense and preservation instincts and taking care to prepare for possible future problems.
I don't think we should be ignorant of means for self sufficiency, Amen. This to me translates as "don't rely on the government for clean water," or anything else, for that matter. But "have no thought for tomorrow" should get a hearing here, imo; these things should be useful today, yes?

And our def's of "witness" are different, as a result. But I don't have a wife and kids; I would be sorely tempted to prepare for Armageddon if I did. Hell, I've been doing just that anyway. Let me state now that all my preparations, all my learning here, may serve me, but the first need evinced for my colloidal silver maker can have it; I have a better Source for clean water now.

To answer your Q, I have abandoned all my preparations in this area, as they were keeping me from my Wedding prep, and making me a beggar, in a sense. Now I rely on God for tomorrow, just like for today, but I will admit that this only came about for me after some pretty radical..."social surgery," lol.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:19 PM
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But I would still follow you to learn some new survival trick; if you can eat when others are starving, this is life. But any stockpiling to me is missing a central point now.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:30 PM
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What witness will it be however, if one neglects to prepare for life on earth beyond the next few years and they find themselves with nothing and wind up begging in the streets? Is it a better witness to prepare for the very worst and be supplied (thereby giving some the impression you aren't trusting in God) or not prepare at all and find yourself a beggar with nothing but relying on God?

Perhaps reliance on God includes USING ones common sense and preservation instincts and taking care to prepare for possible future problems.
I agree with this. I believe we should prepare for economic distress at the very least, regardless of whether Armageddon has anything to do with it or not. The writing is on the wall for our debt entrenched country. Whether or not this has anything to do with the "end of days" or whatever you want to call it, it would not be a bad idea to have on hand food to last you for at least three months, and basic survival supplies, in case of no water, food, or electricity. Urban areas will possibly be most hardest hit, as folks there won't have easy access to food and water, because of the masses of people. We have seen how quickly people degenerate when basic necessities aren't met in other countries with rioting and looting... what makes us think it couldn't happen here in our beloved America?

Yet, in all your preparing, and readying of supplies, keeping in mind that as in the days of Israel when they walked through the wilderness, God supplied and met all their needs, I believe the same will happen to believers during this time. I believe it will be a witness and a light to the rest of the world, when they see the protection of God over his saints even as destruction and terror reign in the land.

So yes, BB, and Jay, let's prepare for revival, for a wonderful day is coming, but until that day comes, basic supplies for difficult days ahead is not a bad idea, and beyond that, trust in Jesus to supply our needs.

That is how we are preparing anyway....
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:10 PM
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Amen, I like all that. I just don't want to see Christians get sucked in to the Armageddon mindset.
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Amen, I like all that. I just don't want to see Christians get sucked in to the Armageddon mindset.
Yes, there are many "mindsets" out there to get sucked into...
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:26 PM
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Amen, I like all that. I just don't want to see Christians get sucked in to the Armageddon mindset.
So perhaps I should just fill a single bottle of water and always trust God to keep it full?

If your trusting Him to do it for your food, why not your water?
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:03 AM
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So perhaps I should just fill a single bottle of water and always trust God to keep it full?

If your trusting Him to do it for your food, why not your water?
Boy, I'll tell you, I'm feeling my way here. i'm just convicted that we are not supposed to be running around like the lost, preparing for some "sky is falling" scenario. I have only been "trusting God" for really a couple years, 2 years, and surely somewhat kidding myself, at that. But ya, a container that doesn't empty..."un-fortuitously." I'm getting some kind of related stuff, already...I mean, I'm a pretty self-sufficient person, even have trouble accepting soup from neighbors, so honestly, "survival" would be my natural inclination here. But so, I'm supposed to break off "wedding prep" to gather insurance? Not me.
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