God created Evil - Page 2

Timmy · #11 01-31-2012, 11:55 PM

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ecstasy has to have a balance.

Oh yeah, light can't exist without darkness; good can't exist without evil.

So, no good in heaven (unless there is also evil)?

(But I bet I'm asking the wrong guy! Heaven is here and now, or something like that, right?

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bbyrd009 · #12 02-01-2012, 10:01 AM

Heaven is wherever God is, and you will never physically visit the future, it will always be a figment of your imagination. And you certainly must credit He who created evil with the biggest dose of free will.
Understand I AM to know when eternity begins, and refuse to believe perception is reality, as the Bible commands you, and understand that He that is free is free, indeed.
Otherwise, how might you do any greater things? Hmm? Thank you, God, that I am doing greater things in Christ's Name.

Timmy · #13 02-01-2012, 10:29 AM

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Heaven is wherever God is, and you will never physically visit the future, it will always be a figment of your imagination. And you certainly must credit He who created evil with the biggest dose of free will.
Understand I AM to know when eternity begins, and refuse to believe perception is reality, as the Bible commands you, and understand that He that is free is free, indeed.
Otherwise, how might you do any greater things? Hmm? Thank you, God, that I am doing greater things in Christ's Name.

Wait, what? The Bible commands you to believe perception is reality? Or it commands you not to?

Whichever you mean, where is that in the Bible?

bbyrd009 · #14 02-01-2012, 10:36 AM

"Speak that which is not as though it were."
Perception is not reality, unless it is for you.

bbyrd009 · #15 02-01-2012, 10:37 AM

Um, et al? Ignore what your eyes tell you, is a message I often get from Christ's words...
I operate in a Kingdom not of this world. This Kingdom will not begin at some magical future eternity, it is right beside us. If you attempt to find it with your perceptions you are wasting your time, you will laugh at what I bow to. Not you Timmy, the collective "you."

Timmy · #16 02-01-2012, 10:37 AM

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"Speak that which is not as though it were."
Perception is not reality, unless it is for you.

Perception is sometimes faulty, it's true. But deliberately speaking things that are not true, well, how is that different from a lie?

Timmy · #17 02-01-2012, 10:46 AM

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Um, et al? Ignore what your eyes tell you, is a message I often get from Christ's words...

Yeah, that's really good advice. Especially when driving.

That reminds me, you might know this song. And this would make a great educational video for a defensive driving course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU

Yes, if your car starts skidding, throw your hands up and let Jesus take over!

bbyrd009 · #18 02-01-2012, 10:46 AM

Who said "not true?" The Scripture says "not," as in "don't exist yet, that you can see with your eyes, your perception," similar to--and don't laugh too hard, or you'll miss the point--"the pizza will be here in 20 minutes."
Surely better examples, but I gotta run.

bbyrd009 · #19 02-01-2012, 10:49 AM

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Yeah, that's really good advice. Especially when driving.

That reminds me, you might know this song. And this would make a great educational video for a defensive driving course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU

Yes, if your car starts skidding, throw your hands up and let Jesus take over!

Yes, the spiritual, when translated to the merely material, will always be good for a laugh.

And sorry, but I'm just not edified by "Christian" music. I like freaky, creative, "speaking in tongues" music, but ty.

Timmy · #20 02-01-2012, 10:53 AM

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Who said "not true?"

The Bible did.

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The Scripture says "not," as in "don't exist yet,

If it doesn't exist yet, it doesn't exist.

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that you can see with your eyes, your perception," similar to--and don't laugh too hard, or you'll miss the point--"the pizza will be here in 20 minutes."
Surely better examples, but I gotta run.

OK, I understand that, really. And it usually works, for pizza or turning on a light switch. But it often doesn't work for really serious things, like terminal illness (examples of it "working" do not disprove my claim).