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[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Michael,
I was trying to show you the ignorant gaffes that Obama has made and continues to make, but the media does not make a big deal out of it. You are not even noticing the unfairness of it, it doesn't look like. The great debater in chief, but it's okay if he makes mistakes.


Small gaffe on the voting age, IMO. The voting date, and you missed my joke above, wasn't a big deal to me. His policies and governing style are a huge deal to me. Montemayor is a common Mexican name here, not a biggy. I'd like to forget Sotomayor. I see your point and your concern. It's just not a big deal in the overall scheme of things.

You will find that his supporters that know his "consistent" conservative record and his personable personality are not as bothered by it as others. Sure, we wished he never made a mistake, but it never changes our opinion on how he will govern. That is way more important to us. Yes, we cringe at debate time, but the last two debates, he was declared the winner. The campaign trail is grueling. They have had more debates this go round than ever. It takes 2 1/2 days to prepare and takes time off the campaign trail. It's just ridiculous. Perry does excellent with retail politics. He is a very personable guy and shines in that department. He is excellent in interviews, excellent in a one on one. That is why we are not afraid of his debating Obama.


That's fine Michael. It doesn't bother me. I will take real over plastic any day. It would be nice to have a human being in the White House and not a politician. Make some human gaffes, but govern well!


Insider Advantage has him in the #3 slot in Iowa. You are right, most Americans don't base their votes on studied facts, they base them on television sound bites. Pitiful and embarrassing, IMO.


I thought it was a strong and calculated move, drawing the large distinction between the rights of one group over another. Considering the facts below, it was a strong and bold move. Someone needs to make it! We can't keep going down this avenue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OW3w...layer_embedded

Gov. Perry discusses his ad in this interview with Wolf Blitzer:

Perry Hits Obama for War on Faith

http://situationroom.blogs.cnn.com/category/rick-perry/

Great dialogue, and you make a good case.

However, I'd really like to know what he's basing his opinion on concerning Obama's alleged "War on Faith"????

In our country, gays have always been allowed to serve in the military, under the DADT policy. Unfortunately, there are even church denominations which allow openly homosexual pastors, officials, etc. So, the issue of gays in the military is really an issue of gays in American life, even religion, per se.

Now, the issue of not being able to celebrate Christmas in schools - that's been an issue since long before Obama took office.

So, I guess I really can't see the correlation. When I saw Perry's ad, it seemed to me that he was trying to convince Americans that he would ban gays in the military, and allow prayer and the celebration of Christmas back into the public school system.

Big disparity, and impossible for one president to do.

I really don't see anywhere in Obama's administration where he has declared a "War on Faith", so in my opinion, that's a pretty big leap.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Great dialogue, and you make a good case.

However, I'd really like to know what he's basing his opinion on concerning Obama's alleged "War on Faith"????

In our country, gays have always been allowed to serve in the military, under the DADT policy. Unfortunately, there are even church denominations which allow openly homosexual pastors, officials, etc. So, the issue of gays in the military is really an issue of gays in American life, even religion, per se.

Now, the issue of not being able to celebrate Christmas in schools - that's been an issue since long before Obama took office.

So, I guess I really can't see the correlation. When I saw Perry's ad, it seemed to me that he was trying to convince Americans that he would ban gays in the military, and allow prayer and the celebration of Christmas back into the public school system.

Big disparity, and impossible for one president to do.

I really don't see anywhere in Obama's administration where he has declared a "War on Faith", so in my opinion, that's a pretty big leap.

I guess I wouldn't know why you would still have questions on this issue after viewing the video and listening to Perry's interview with Blitzer.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I guess I wouldn't know why you would still have questions on this issue after viewing the video and listening to Perry's interview with Blitzer.

I know what Perry is saying..........looking for some supporting facts, that's all.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I know what Perry is saying..........looking for some supporting facts, that's all.

Here is his exact wording on the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. I agree with him, it was politically motivated.

Perry: I think the don't ask don't tell policy was an appropriate policy to have in place. my issue is not about an individuals sexuality, the issue is we have two wars going on and this president, pressured by his left base, and the promise he made during the campaign that he was going to push through so that gays would openly serve in the military and I think, I'm a former veteran pilot in the united states air force and for 11 years been commander and chief of the forces in Texas, our national guard, Texas state military. I think I understand this issue very well and my command and line individuals think that was very bad policy to put in place particularly while we are in a time of combat, using our military as a political tool, bad public policy.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

However, I'd really like to know what he's basing his opinion on concerning Obama's alleged "War on Faith"????

There is so much information out there, I guess I'm surprised you have asked this question. So, I'll post an article by Chuck Norris (will have two parts) who explains it very well. Great article!

I'm very happy for Perry to draw a distinction and lay it out on the table.

I believe that like Sodom and Gomorrah, when you take God out of focus, that is the degeneration of society. That, of course, would include the growing gay issue - Don't Ask, Don't Tell being center here.

The Feds' War on Religion (Part 1 of 2)

By Chuck Norris | December 20, 2011
Gone are the days when the commander in chief rallied the troops and nation with a religious presidential call as Ronald Reagan and Franklin D. Roosevelt did. FDR declared in his Christmas address to the nation Dec. 24, 1944 (the first Christmas after D-Day): "Here, at home, we will celebrate this Christmas Day in our traditional American way because of its deep spiritual meaning to us; because the teachings of Christ are fundamental in our lives; and because we want our youngest generation to grow up knowing the significance of this tradition and the story of the coming of the immortal Prince of Peace and Good Will. ... We pray that with victory will come a new day of peace on earth, in which all the nations of the earth will join together for all time. That is the spirit of Christmas, the holy day. May that spirit live and grow throughout the world in all the years to come."

(Watch Reagan's 1981 Christmas greeting to the nation on YouTube. It's titled "Ronald Reagan Christmas address (12/23/81).")

In many respects, we need to turn back the clock in America to our founding principles, values and liberties, and those include the intricate and pivotal role that religion and Christianity played in our early republic. It is time not to flee religious liberties, but to re-embrace them, especially during this sacred Christmas week. I'll do just that in Part 2 when I specifically share with you the beliefs I know can restore our homes and country.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/chuck-n...igion-part-1-2

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Here is his exact wording on the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. I agree with him, it was politically motivated.

Perry: I think the don't ask don't tell policy was an appropriate policy to have in place. my issue is not about an individuals sexuality, the issue is we have two wars going on and this president, pressured by his left base, and the promise he made during the campaign that he was going to push through so that gays would openly serve in the military and I think, I'm a former veteran pilot in the united states air force and for 11 years been commander and chief of the forces in Texas, our national guard, Texas state military. I think I understand this issue very well and my command and line individuals think that was very bad policy to put in place particularly while we are in a time of combat, using our military as a political tool, bad public policy.

You've helped me prove my point, lol.

Perry openly admits he doesn't have a problem with gays serving in the military, as long as it's under the DADT policy. But, he uses "Gays in the military" as the springboard to his campaign to abolish Obama's "War on Religion!"

I mean, what's the real issue here? Does he have a problem with gays in the millitary?

Here is his tagline in the commercial, verbatim: "I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a Christian. But you don't need to be in a pew every Sunday to know that there is something wrong in this country when gays can serve in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school. As president, I'll end Obama's war on religion, and I'll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage."

And, then he comes back and says this: PERRY: Absolutely. I think "don't ask, don't tell" worked fine. Listen, I wore the uniform. I was a pilot in the United States Air Force. And I think the "don't ask, don't tell" policy was working fine.

I'm not sure what Perry's position is on gays in the military, to be honest. Does he disapprove of them serving, or just telling others that they are gay?????

That's why I'm asking these questions. Yes, there is a lot of chatter out there, but right now, not much of it's making sense to me.

Just my humble opinion!

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

There is so much information out there, I guess I'm surprised you have asked this question. So, I'll post an article by Chuck Norris (will have two parts) who explains it very well. Great article!

I'm very happy for Perry to draw a distinction and lay it out on the table.

I believe that like Sodom and Gomorrah, when you take God out of focus, that is the degeneration of society. That, of course, would include the growing gay issue - Don't Ask, Don't Tell being center here.

Anectdotal - Chuck Norris' viewpoint, which by the way, I don't have a problem with.

But, can we say that this proves that Obama has launched a war on religion? Even Perry admitted this:

PERRY: Listen, I'm not saying that everything he does is not associated back to his faith. What I'm saying is his administration and the people he's associated with -- and when you start seeing the Catholic bishops with their great concern about this administration, then I think that is a war on our religious traditions in this country

He keeps going back to one major point, Catholic charities are being affected by Obama's policies. The Catholic church is the one of the largest money making organizations in the world, so for Obama to cut federal funding to any of their charities, does not constitute a war on religion, in my book.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

You've helped me prove my point, lol.

Perry openly admits he doesn't have a problem with gays serving in the military, as long as it's under the DADT policy. But, he uses "Gays in the military" as the springboard to his campaign to abolish Obama's "War on Religion!"

I mean, what's the real issue here? Does he have a problem with gays in the millitary?

Here is his tagline in the commercial, verbatim: "I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a Christian. But you don't need to be in a pew every Sunday to know that there is something wrong in this country when gays can serve in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school. As president, I'll end Obama's war on religion, and I'll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage."

And, then he comes back and says this: PERRY: Absolutely. I think "don't ask, don't tell" worked fine. Listen, I wore the uniform. I was a pilot in the United States Air Force. And I think the "don't ask, don't tell" policy was working fine.

I'm not sure what Perry's position is on gays in the military, to be honest. Does he disapprove of them serving, or just telling others that they are gay?????

That's why I'm asking these questions. Yes, there is a lot of chatter out there, but right now, not much of it's making sense to me.

Just my humble opinion!

Michael,
The point is the inequality between the gays and the Christians. One group is being given their First Amendment rights at the expense of another. Why don't you get that from the ad?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Michael,
The point is the inequality between the gays and the Christians. One group is being given their First Amendment rights at the expense of another. Why don't you get that from the ad?

What I get from the ad is that Perry is saying that kids can't celebrate Christmas in public schools. When asked where he got that, he used one example of a judge in San Antonio saying that kids couldn't pray at their commencement exercise.

What he implies in the commercial is that Obama has somehow used a broad brush, and has personally guaranteed that no kid anywhere in America can celebrate Christmas in school.

Once again, this broad brush political tactic of outright saying that "OBAMA HAS DECLARED WAR ON RELIGION" is way out of line, and I will not back down from that position.

Perry is guilty of politics here, plain and simple.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Anectdotal - Chuck Norris' viewpoint, which by the way, I don't have a problem with.

But, can we say that this proves that Obama has launched a war on religion? Even Perry admitted this:

PERRY: Listen, I'm not saying that everything he does is not associated back to his faith. What I'm saying is his administration and the people he's associated with -- and when you start seeing the Catholic bishops with their great concern about this administration, then I think that is a war on our religious traditions in this country

He keeps going back to one major point, Catholic charities are being affected by Obama's policies. The Catholic church is the one of the largest money making organizations in the world, so for Obama to cut federal funding to any of their charities, does not constitute a war on religion, in my book.

Michael,
Who cares how much the Catholic organization raises? The point is, they don't get funding for medical purposes if they don't tow the line on abortions.

Catholic bishops are simply protesting a potential Obama administration decision forcing insurance companies to cover birth control, contraception and drugs that could cause abortions. They don't see that certain religious groups may not be exempt from providing the insurance, which would violate their moral and religious views.

The Protect Life Act makes it clear that no funds authorized or appropriated by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), including tax credits and cost-sharing reductions, may be used to pay for abortion or abortion coverage.