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12-13-2011, 10:31 PM
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Romney has the best shot at beating BHO.
Perry has hurt his chances with the debate mistakes.
Newt is not electable. He would make a great Secretary of State, however.
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Obama would mop the floor with Perry in the debates.
I think Newt will put it to Obama in debates and all this "not electable" talk will go away.
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12-13-2011, 10:36 PM
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Romney has the best shot at beating BHO.
Perry has hurt his chances with the debate mistakes.
Newt is not electable. He would make a great Secretary of State, however.
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Romney doesn't have much chance. I would vote for anyone who is running against Obama, but I don't think a known Mormon can win the presidency, and that's probably not a bad thing. I'm pulling for Newt, but I've come to like Santorum the best as a conservative, I'd like to see him run again in the future because I don't think he can pull off the nomination this year but perhaps in 2016 (if Obama wins 2012).
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12-13-2011, 11:02 PM
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Re: Savage offers gingrich $1 million to drop out
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Romney doesn't have much chance. I would vote for anyone who is running against Obama, but I don't think a known Mormon can win the presidency, and that's probably not a bad thing. I'm pulling for Newt, but I've come to like Santorum the best as a conservative, I'd like to see him run again in the future because I don't think he can pull off the nomination this year but perhaps in 2016 (if Obama wins 2012).
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If Obama wins in 2012 there probably won't be a presidential election in 2016. By that time Obama will have destroyed everything about The United States, including the Constitution, and will simply declare himself The USA Dictator, by executive order. He's done everything else by executive order to bypass Congress! We'll all be bowing, saying, "Hail Obama!"
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12-14-2011, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Obama would mop the floor with Perry in the debates.
I think Newt will put it to Obama in debates and all this "not electable" talk will go away.
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Me too.
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12-14-2011, 11:29 AM
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Re: Savage offers gingrich $1 million to drop out
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I agree! Our family will vote for Rick Perry! 
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It's interesting to watch people so enamored with Newt's intellectual verbiage while not even having a consistent conservative record. Just amazes me.
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The Rick Perry I Know
How have they come to the conclusion that bad debate form is the equivalent of “can’t govern” even when all evidence shows the opposite?
When did we become a party that picks winners based on their ability to talk a good game in spite of any evidence to the contrary that they would actually govern a good game?
Why have records ceased to matter? Why are we letting the media “debate-coverage” us to death? Why are we choosing “zingers” over substance?
Rick Perry is, in my opinion, the best man for the job. Everything that I’m hearing to refute this idea boils down to the idea that he won’t win in a debate against Obama. Ok? This is how we choose leaders now? Whoever can totally argue like, the best and stuff?
Sorry. I’m not going to board the smooth talker express.
Rick Perry may not be the Newt Gingrich of presidential candidates, but, as silly as it may sound, I’m not interested in hiring a candidate. I’m interested in hiring a President. For me, that President is Rick Perry.
http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011...-perry-i-know/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh0dJ...layer_embedded
And an excellent interview with Sean Hannity yesterday:
http://www.hannity.com/videos/
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12-14-2011, 01:03 PM
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Re: Savage offers gingrich $1 million to drop out
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
I think Newt will put it to Obama in debates and all this "not electable" talk will go away.
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Newt Gingrich commits a capital crime
Newt Gingrich — the friend of his detractors, to whom he offers serial vindications — provided on Monday redundant evidence for the proposition that he is the least conservative candidate seeking the Republican presidential nomination: He faulted Mitt Romney for committing acts of capitalism.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...hsO_story.html
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That would be Newt - the pseudo-conservative.
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12-14-2011, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
That would be Newt - the pseudo-conservative.
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Newt is definitely not ultra conservative, especally in his past, but anything that is being thrown out against Newt easily sticks to Romney too. Perry simply has destroyed his image, its over for him, sorry to say since I'm a Texan. As far as conservatives go, Rick Santorum seems to be the most conservative. I don't count Bachmann, she is just annoying and isn't a serious candidate and never will be.
I applaud Newt for his unapologetic pro Israel stance.
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12-16-2011, 04:06 PM
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Re: Savage offers gingrich $1 million to drop out
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin
If Obama wins in 2012 there probably won't be a presidential election in 2016. By that time Obama will have destroyed everything about The United States, including the Constitution, and will simply declare himself The USA Dictator, by executive order. He's done everything else by executive order to bypass Congress! We'll all be bowing, saying, "Hail Obama!"
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You are so wrong, it will be heil Obama
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12-16-2011, 10:40 PM
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Re: Savage offers gingrich $1 million to drop out
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Perry simply has destroyed his image, its over for him, sorry to say since I'm a Texan.
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So, we are going to toss out the most successful, conservative governor in this presidential race because he had a couple of weak debates? Romney is a one-termer with left-of-center policies which also helped pave the way for Obamacare. Do you really seriously believe that Perry would spend all of his time dealing with meaningless gaffes? And WHEN did record and policy not count? When?
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As far as conservatives go, Rick Santorum seems to be the most conservative. I don't count Bachmann, she is just annoying and isn't a serious candidate and never will be.
I applaud Newt for his unapologetic pro Israel stance.
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I agree that Rick Santorum is conservative, but like Newt, Santorum has not run for office in several years and does not have serious executive experience.
And there is a very fine line between a consultant and a lobbyist and I'm not sure I can tell the difference in Newt's account of the Freddie and Fannie deal. He has other left-leaning policies and support that don't sit well with me. Perry has an unapologetic pro-Israel stance as well. He also has consistent, conservative policy that Newt does not and never will have.
Bachmann is a good woman, but I agree, she is very annoying and will never win.
What is really going on is that the GOP Establishment, with the help of Fox News, is wanting Romney. Nikki Haley has been a sell-out to the Tea party for her endorsement of him. Her polling numbers are lower than Obama in SC. If she wants to rise above that, she is going to have to jump when the GOP calls and she jumped.
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12-16-2011, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
So, we are going to toss out the most successful, conservative governor in this presidential race because he had a couple of weak debates? Romney is a one-termer with left-of-center policies which also helped pave the way for Obamacare. Do you really seriously believe that Perry would spend all of his time dealing with meaningless gaffes? And WHEN did record and policy not count? When?
I agree that Rick Santorum is conservative, but like Newt, Santorum has not run for office in several years and does not have serious executive experience.
And there is a very fine line between a consultant and a lobbyist and I'm not sure I can tell the difference in Newt's account of the Freddie and Fannie deal. He has other left-leaning policies and support that don't sit well with me. Perry has an unapologetic pro-Israel stance as well. He also has consistent, conservative policy that Newt does not and never will have.
Bachmann is a good woman, but I agree, she is very annoying and will never win.
What is really going on is that the GOP Establishment, with the help of Fox News, is wanting Romney. Nikki Haley has been a sell-out to the Tea party for her endorsement of him. Her polling numbers are lower than Obama in SC. If she wants to rise above that, she is going to have to jump when the GOP calls and she jumped.
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I do agree that Newt has a tiny bit of leftist leanings, though generally I think he is center right (in pentecostalese- a moderate), but I think that helps electability. I don't think this country would vote in a real solid conservative. Don't confuse my favortism of Newt with agree with everything he has ever done. I really just want to see Newt follow Obama around and dismantle his speeches and then dismantle Obama in the debates.
I don't see what's so great about Perry.
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