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12-12-2011, 10:22 AM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
The standard is... Jesus. Holiness is allowing yourself to truly be an extension of Jesus Himself as you allow Him to live His life through you. Reckon yourself dead and you'll find that nevertheless you life, not you, but Christ who lives within you.
In sports they tell you to keep your eyes on the ball. Feel the ball. Be the ball.
In Spirit filled Christianity we are called to... keep our eyes upon Jesus. Feel Jesus. Be Jesus.
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12-12-2011, 10:31 AM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
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Holiness is imitating the life of Christ.
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Yeah but riding a donkey is not as easy as it looks! 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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12-12-2011, 10:40 AM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
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Yeah but riding a donkey is not as easy as it looks! |
So true! I never thought of that. LOL
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12-12-2011, 10:54 AM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
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Yeah but riding a donkey is not as easy as it looks! |
Awesome post! Amen!
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12-12-2011, 12:13 PM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
The trouble with simply "imitating" is we don't have the capacity to be righteous without Jesus. Allowing Jesus to live in us and through us is the goal. Not easy to do, and not because He isn't willing, but because we are so stubborn to surrender.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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12-12-2011, 12:15 PM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
Ah... so "Oneness" is more than a Christology... it's a state of being for the believer. God desires to be "one" with us in Jesus Christ, through the indwelling Holy Spirit.
Imagine how we'd live if we realized that through the baptism of the Holy Spirit... we are one with God as Jesus was one with the Father?
John 14:20
At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Also consider...
John 17:11
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. You see, if we are all one with Christ (who is God) through the Spirit... we are also one with one another in Christ. And how would that influence our love for one another?
I think we get lost in our sense of independence and individualism in the West. Our religion begins to be something we do (legalism)... not what we are (regenerated).
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12-12-2011, 12:18 PM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
I think what TFT was trying to communicate was that unless we are walking in Christ we can never be holy. Walking in the Spirit requires faith and faith fades and diminishes when we fail to stay connected to Jesus through prayer and abiding in the Word and maintaining an attitude of thanksgiving and praise. To me it's an awareness of His abiding Presence and fostering that awareness through devotion and consecration.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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12-12-2011, 12:19 PM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
Obviously all out of a sincere love and desire to simply know Him. Which ultimately is granted to us by Gods grace.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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12-12-2011, 12:21 PM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
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I think what TFT was trying to communicate was that unless we are walking in Christ we can never be holy. Walking in the Spirit requires faith and faith fades and diminishes when we fail to stay connected to Jesus through prayer and abiding in the Word and maintaining an attitude of thanksgiving and praise. To me it's an awareness of His abiding Presence and fostering that awareness through devotion and consecration.
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I whole heartedly agree. No doubt that's what TFT meant. I was just developing a thought off his statement as a springboard. 
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12-12-2011, 12:26 PM
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Re: How would you define holiness and holy living?
Imagine the freedom... and the sobering reality... of dropping "standards" and "religious identity" and fully embracing an epic quest to be as one with God in Christ Jesus through the Spirit as humanly possible. Walking entirely by the Spirit. Doing as He bids you in all things... as you allow the very life of Christ to live through you on earth.
I can't explain the feeling.
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