Sin away grace? - Page 2

RandyWayne · #11 10-23-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Except blaspheming the Holy Ghost, of course. And unbelief (unless you stop unbelieving), of course. (Could that be said of any sin? That it won't be forgiven until you stop?)

This is where the "kicking and screaming" part comes into play.

Timmy · #12 10-23-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin

What exactly is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost? Taking into consideration that jesus is the Holy Ghost since he is the spirit of a departed one and he is the only one which is truly holy.

Beats me.

kclee4jc · #13 10-23-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Except blaspheming the Holy Ghost, of course. And unbelief (unless you stop unbelieving), of course. (Could that be said of any sin? That it won't be forgiven until you stop?)

It won't be forgiven until there is a change of heart.

Austin · #14 10-23-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Beats me.

Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is to speak against or in contradiction to the Holy Ghost. Now since there is only one God who is the father of you all and in you all, then the Holy Ghost is God. To speak against him would be the same as to take a stance against the fact that there is a God and to try and convince others of the same.
This is nothing more than being a practicing atheist. Of course as long as your an atheist you can't find forgiveness for your sin or sins.

There was actually Jews in the times of Christ and the apostolic age of the early church that spoke against the apostles and the doctrines of Christ and the receiving of the Holy Ghost. Those people could not be forgiven for their deeds and their sin because they would not receive the truth and were outside of the grace of God.

Timmy · #15 10-23-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc

It won't be forgiven until there is a change of heart.

OK.

Michael The Disciple · #16 10-23-2011, 08:59 PM

Jesus gives time for disciples to bear fruit. If they dont he cuts them off.

Luke 13:7-9

6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.

7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?

8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:

9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

Austin · #17 10-24-2011, 08:17 AM

There must be a lot of fig trees cut down. I think that parable is concerning the covenant that God had currently with Israel one which is about to get cut off because they rejected him as messiah. I have also heard it taught that this parable is about those who the spirit of the Lord deal with but they will not yield to him to be saved.
However I think it's talking about the future of Israel and all the times that God in the past has dealt with her.