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09-13-2011, 04:53 PM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
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Originally Posted by citizen
Someone said it best regarding the Tea Party Debate last night:
What do you tell a guy who is sick, goes into a coma and doesn't have health insurance?
Who pays for his coverage? Are you saying society should just let him die?" Wolf Blitzer asked.
"Yeah!" several members of the crowd yelled out.
"The Republican Candidates are very bad, but the Audience is worse, who are these people?...Church Goers, believers?
What is wrong with people who applaud at such a statement?
We, truly are in trouble in this Country, sick."
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1) says who? Did you just make this up or did you get this from someplace? Do they have proof of ANYTHING you just posted?
2) let's say audience members (no number given so it could be a small fraction) did say "yeah"? Maybe they were saying "Yeah" like "yeah we want to know the answer to that too"?
3) How do you know those people in the audience were really tea party members?
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09-13-2011, 04:56 PM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Ferd,
You don't attempt to justify this statement and the sentiments associated with this statement, do you?
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Why don't one of you verify it? You realize anyone can come here and post any lie they want or exaggerate what happened without proof and clearly you'd accept it as true
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Is there any conservative who really agrees with this line of thinking?
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It was a question by Wolf Blitzer, supposedly and no answer was posted by citizen. You realize don't you?
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I think that people say somethings and do somethings when they are part of a group that one-on-one they would do or say.
Mob mentality-- our politics is rife with it!
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Where you there? Did you see it happen? How many did it? How do we know they were not really liberals trying to make them look bad?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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09-13-2011, 04:57 PM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
It's funny that everyone assumes this was true and not exaggerated and that it was really Tea Party members that did it and that if they did that group represents all conservatives....yet not one shred of evidence it even happened
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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09-13-2011, 05:46 PM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
1) If you choose to not have the insurance to cover your stupid-ness, then do not REQUIRE me to pay for your bad decisions.
2) The bible teaches Charity out of the goodness. Liberals like to make OTHERS be charitable.
3) Would you choose to spend 1 million dollars to save the 1 idiot that chose not to have insurance, or spend that 1 million to vaccinate ever child in the state of South Dakota with the potential to save 200k children from death? Would you rather pay for the 1 idiot that chose not to get insurance, then reduce ever elderlies cost of medical and Elderly Care Home bill? That is the decision that needs to be made.
That is what it has come down to. You can not control the size of the pie, just the amount of the people eating it. I choose to let the 1 idiot die (or relay on charitable organizations) and cover those elderly and children.
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09-13-2011, 05:52 PM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
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Originally Posted by NorCal
1) If you choose to not have the insurance to cover your stupid-ness, then do not REQUIRE me to pay for your bad decisions.
2) The bible teaches Charity out of the goodness. Liberals like to make OTHERS be charitable.
3) Would you choose to spend 1 million dollars to save the 1 idiot that chose not to have insurance, or spend that 1 million to vaccinate ever child in the state of South Dakota with the potential to save 200k children from death? Would you rather pay for the 1 idiot that chose not to get insurance, then reduce ever elderlies cost of medical and Elderly Care Home bill? That is the decision that needs to be made.
That is what it has come down to. You can not control the size of the pie, just the amount of the people eating it. I choose to let the 1 idiot die (or relay on charitable organizations) and cover those elderly and children.
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09-13-2011, 06:06 PM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
And still for some reason everyone assumes this was a true account...odd
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-14-2011, 07:47 AM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
I believe this is what is being talked about on this thread...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9fk7NpgIU
This is some of the spin going around on this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jevl2dY8oRI
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09-14-2011, 08:28 AM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
I think this is an important question. Do we just, "Let him die?"
Ron Paul suggests churches, friends, and family help pay for his expenses. Is that reasonable? Could churches really pay for the care of millions of uninsured Americans? Don't get me wrong, I wish they could. But most churches I know are struggling to survive on their current budget. I know that my family couldn't afford to pay for his care. It would financially wipe us out.
I don't see churches throughout the nation forming health insurance cooperatives (at least not in my neck of the woods). I do think it would be an interesting idea that rings of a more conservative and distributist philosophy.
But we need to focus on reality...
I'm not out to criticize a given philosophy of politics. But I do think this is an important question.
In the year 2011, a 33 year old man in good health chooses to opt out of health insurance because he can barely afford to pay bills and have health insurance. Then something terrible happens and he needs 6 months to a year of intensive care. Do we just let him die? If not, who pays for it?
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09-14-2011, 09:01 AM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
in Florida, everyone who drives has to have car insurance, or you can get your license suspended.
If you are buying a home, the bank forces you to have Home owners Ins, or the bank insures your home and bills you.
Maybe we should make it so everyone has to buy health insurance, and if you don't you are billed for it by the State. If you don't pay it, the state can take it from your income tax, or put a lien on your property, or garnish your wages.
Maybe it would be cheaper then everyone having their hospital costs jacked up to pay for the people who have to resort to the emergency room for health care.
By the time they get to the Emergency Room, they are full blown AIDs instead of treatable HIV, or they have terminal cancer, instead of just needing surgery and chemo, or they are blind and need their legs amputated instead of just needing insulin. And the costs are more in the long run then if we treated people up front.
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09-14-2011, 09:17 AM
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Re: Are these folk Christian
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
1) says who? Did you just make this up or did you get this from someplace? Do they have proof of ANYTHING you just posted?
2) let's say audience members (no number given so it could be a small fraction) did say "yeah"? Maybe they were saying "Yeah" like "yeah we want to know the answer to that too"?
3) How do you know those people in the audience were really tea party members?
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Ding, ding ding, ding, ding!!!!!
We have a winner here folks!!!!
Get some proof!!!! 
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