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Old 09-08-2011, 05:27 PM
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Re: Being Christ Like?

Did Jesus believe the Bible?

Psalm 150

1Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

2Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.

3Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.

4Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.

5Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

6Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:35 PM
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You're missing my point. What did Jesus do? Was He an example in this area in how we should act? Are there any New Testament scriptures that would give us an example of how Jesus felt about this. Not trying to condemn, nor criticize anyone, just wondering if there was in fact any thing that Jesus might have said concerning the physical, emotional responses that are as numerous as the stars...(an exaggeration!)

If several speaking in tongues could cause people to think they were mad, would jumping pews and busting out sheetrock and turning over instruments not also cause outsiders to think we were mad?

Are our physical, emotional acts "Christ like"?

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You're missing my point. What did Jesus do? Was He an example in this area in how we should act? Are there any New Testament scriptures that would give us an example of how Jesus felt about this. Not trying to condemn, nor criticize anyone, just wondering if there was in fact any thing that Jesus might have said concerning the physical, emotional responses that are as numerous as the stars...(an exaggeration!)

If several speaking in tongues could cause people to think they were mad, would jumping pews and busting out sheetrock and turning over instruments not also cause outsiders to think we were mad?

Are our physical, emotional acts "Christ like"?

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aren't you missing the point, Jesus told the Pharisees to shut up and let the people worship him.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:42 PM
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Re: Being Christ Like?

if God does something for you, like heal your baby girl of cancer, you will be like the man of Acts 3:8 who entered the temple walking and leaping and praising Godl
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:47 PM
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Dont get me wrong. I believe in the deep emotional love of God. Fervent heart felt praise, dancing and even jumping for joy.

YET.....I do think a lot of what I have seen in Pentecostalism would not have been recognized in the early Church. I see myself somewhere between Pentecostal and Charismatic when it comes to praise and worship.

The fervency of Pentecost blended with a perhaps more "orderly" enviroment for the meeting.
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aren't you missing the point, Jesus told the Pharisees to shut up and let the people worship him.

Amanah, I'm not against worship. Just wondering how much of it is worship and how much of it is flesh. I've seen people acting like chickens, (clucking, jerking, prancing) turning over chairs, breaking furniture, and even bringing blood on rare occasions.

And you've missed my point! Did Christ set us any examples of this type of "worship" if you want to call that worship.

I am not trying to stir up anyone. Just wanted to know if anyone could give me scriptures to indicate that Christ gave us any examples of the "far out" actions in church and wouldn't this also be covered by Paul's concern of outsiders thinking the Christians were mad! Paul must have been concerned about how the church of that day was perceived.

Some of the things that have gone on, from Florida to Canada, are far out, and I can't seem to find where this was something that Christ would be pleased with. Let me ask it this way... "Where would Christ draw the line?"
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:56 PM
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Amanah, I'm not against worship. Just wondering how much of it is worship and how much of it is flesh. I've seen people acting like chickens, (clucking, jerking, prancing) turning over chairs, breaking furniture, and even bringing blood on rare occasions.

And you've missed my point! Did Christ set us any examples of this type of "worship" if you want to call that worship.

I am not trying to stir up anyone. Just wanted to know if anyone could give me scriptures to indicate that Christ gave us any examples of the "far out" actions in church and wouldn't this also be covered by Paul's concern of outsiders thinking the Christians were mad! Paul must have been concerned about how the church of that day was perceived.

Some of the things that have gone on, from Florida to Canada, are far out, and I can't seem to find where this was something that Christ would be pleased with. Let me ask it this way... "Where would Christ draw the line?"
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Did Jesus believe the Bible?

Psalm 150

1Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

2Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.

3Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.

4Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.

5Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

6Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:59 PM
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Re: Being Christ Like?

There is always a chance that people can get in the flesh and seek attention. that is not worship. I don't think we are in danger of that.

I think we are in danger of using that as an excuse not to be demonstrative in our love for the Lord. We are in more in danger of criticising the woman who broke the alabaster box and poured expensive ointment on the feet of our Lord.

I want to enter his gate with thanksgiving and his courts with praise. I want my worship to woo the presence of the Lord in such a way that his glory fills the temple.
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Dont get me wrong. I believe in the deep emotional love of God. Fervent heart felt praise, dancing and even jumping for joy.

YET.....I do think a lot of what I have seen in Pentecostalism would not have been recognized in the early Church. I see myself somewhere between Pentecostal and Charismatic when it comes to praise and worship.

The fervency of Pentecost blended with a perhaps more "orderly" enviroment for the meeting.
We really don't know. What went on in the upper room when they were filled with the Holy Ghost is indicative of an exuberance that can't be denied. It was visibly seen and heard.

What we must be careful doing is to shut down a person's personal expression in their interaction with God.

Sure, some people do and have gotten into a fleshly display. It is something you can feel and recognize. There are various reasons for this. Some want to fit in and some want to appear spiritual without paying the price by being in the presence of God, forming a relationship which takes time every day.

We have to be gentle with people like this and show them a better way. And, of course, there are some that will not listen.

We have to do the best we can and allow God to take care of the rest. Shutting the Spirit down because of a few is not a good idea.
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