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Old 05-12-2007, 10:23 PM
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The reason I wished to get some discussion going on this is that I am not convinced we are living at the very end of time.

The "signs" that are often touted ring true at first but upon closer review it appears they are not much different than they have been for hundreds or thousands of years prior....

Are there more earthquakes today than say... in the 1900's?

Is homosexuality much more prevalent today than in old Rome?

Are wars more commonplace now than in times when tens of millions died in inquisitions?
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:26 PM
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The one thing I do know...

we are closer to the Age of Ages than ever before...

The time when all people shall be judged...

and the Christ supreme revealed...

AND TIME SHALL BE NO MORE.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:32 PM
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The reason I wished to get some discussion going on this is that I am not convinced we are living at the very end of time.

The "signs" that are often touted ring true at first but upon closer review it appears they are not much different than they have been for hundreds or thousands of years prior....

Are there more earthquakes today than say... in the 1900's?

Is homosexuality much more prevalent today than in old Rome?

Are wars more commonplace now than in times when tens of millions died in inquisitions?
I dug out some old notes (so the stats are old, as well). Maybe I'll get the time to update the info. Nevertheless, in answer to your question about earthquakes, consider this:

a. From the 9th Century through the 17th Century, there were only 10 major earthquakes (over 7.0 on the Richter Scale – 6.5 is listed as “significant”).

b. In the 18th Century, there were 5, and in the 19th Century, there were Nine!

c. So far in the 20th Century (through 1997), there have been 1,960 major earthquakes!

(1) The World Almanac lists the following: from 1800 - 1896, (96 years) six of strength; 1897 – 1947 (50 years), 12-13; 1948 – 1956 (10 years), 7; 1957 – 1966 (10 years), 17; 1967 – 1976 (10 years), 50 of significant strength and 18 major earthquakes!

(2) The US Government gives the following: from 1977 - 1986 there were 116 MAJOR earthquakes, and 7 GREAT earthquakes! From 1987 - 1996, there were 142 major earthquakes, and 6 great earthquakes. (A “Great” Earthquake is above 8.0 on the Richter Scale.)

(3) The Us Geological Survey states that there is a 100% chance of an earthquake EVERY DAY. In fact, since 1900 the average annual number of earthquakes is as follows: Great (8+) – 1; Major (7-7.9) – 18; Strong (6-6.9) – 120; Moderate (5-5.9) – 800; Light (4-4.9) – 6,200; Minor (3-3.9) – 49,000; Very Minor (<3) – 9,000 PER DAY!
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I worked on the church building all day long....and I am WORN OUT. Someone call Baxter, prophecy has been fulfilled!
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I worked on the church building all day long....and I am WORN OUT. Someone call Baxter, prophecy has been fulfilled!
The end is nigh... for you... (or your day at least)
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I dug out some old notes (so the stats are old, as well). Maybe I'll get the time to update the info. Nevertheless, in answer to your question about earthquakes, consider this:

a. From the 9th Century through the 17th Century, there were only 10 major earthquakes (over 7.0 on the Richter Scale – 6.5 is listed as “significant”).

b. In the 18th Century, there were 5, and in the 19th Century, there were Nine!

c. So far in the 20th Century (through 1997), there have been 1,960 major earthquakes!

(1) The World Almanac lists the following: from 1800 - 1896, (96 years) six of strength; 1897 – 1947 (50 years), 12-13; 1948 – 1956 (10 years), 7; 1957 – 1966 (10 years), 17; 1967 – 1976 (10 years), 50 of significant strength and 18 major earthquakes!

(2) The US Government gives the following: from 1977 - 1986 there were 116 MAJOR earthquakes, and 7 GREAT earthquakes! From 1987 - 1996, there were 142 major earthquakes, and 6 great earthquakes. (A “Great” Earthquake is above 8.0 on the Richter Scale.)

(3) The Us Geological Survey states that there is a 100% chance of an earthquake EVERY DAY. In fact, since 1900 the average annual number of earthquakes is as follows: Great (8+) – 1; Major (7-7.9) – 18; Strong (6-6.9) – 120; Moderate (5-5.9) – 800; Light (4-4.9) – 6,200; Minor (3-3.9) – 49,000; Very Minor (<3) – 9,000 PER DAY!
More on this later - Not everyone agrees that there is more sizemic activity now than in prior decades.
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More on this later - Not everyone agrees that there is more sizemic activity now than in prior decades.
I'm just quoting the government stats.
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The only real problem is there was no way to measure large earthquakes many years ago and the earth was not as populated. Nevertheless earthquakes do see more frequent and in different areas
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I'm just quoting the government stats.

EARTHQUAKES AND THE END TIMES:
A GEOLOGICAL AND BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE
Steven A. Austin and Mark L. Strauss*

http://www.ldolphin.org/quakes2.html
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EARTHQUAKES AND THE END TIMES:
A GEOLOGICAL AND BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE
Steven A. Austin and Mark L. Strauss*

http://www.ldolphin.org/quakes2.html
I didn't get my info from Hal Lindsey, Grant Jeffery, OR John Hagee. I took it straight from the US Government web site. The website you reference chose to recommend sources that prove their point.

I guess it boils down to this: we'll all believe what we want to believe. I choose to believe in the imminent return of Jesus Christ.
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