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06-09-2011, 10:23 PM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
Unfortunately, a lot of Trinitarians do believe in three gods. Just listen to Christian music or even their prayer and you'll hear it. They're praising (or praying to) the Father, and then the Son, and then the Holy Ghost. They seem to believe they need to spread the worship around to each of their gods so as not to offend any of them.
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06-10-2011, 01:43 AM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
Ive never heard a baptist say "I believe in three gods" but that doesn't mean that any don't theologically have three gods
there is a fine line between the Trinity and Tritheism and many claiming to be Trinitarians routinely cross that line when trying to explain the Trinity or shoot down some one elses theology imo
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-10-2011, 08:06 AM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
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Originally Posted by Pendragon
Unfortunately, a lot of Trinitarians do believe in three gods. Just listen to Christian music or even their prayer and you'll hear it. They're praising (or praying to) the Father, and then the Son, and then the Holy Ghost. They seem to believe they need to spread the worship around to each of their gods so as not to offend any of them.
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I disagree. Nobody I ever knew did. I knew a lot of them (like my entire family and most of the preachers in our community. I even attended bible college and...nope none of them either.
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06-10-2011, 08:07 AM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Ive never heard a baptist say "I believe in three gods" but that doesn't mean that any don't theologically have three gods
there is a fine line between the Trinity and Tritheism and many claiming to be Trinitarians routinely cross that line when trying to explain the Trinity or shoot down some one elses theology imo
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Oh okay. Never ran into that.
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06-10-2011, 09:01 AM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
I copied a couple creeds down over on the fellowship hall maybe you could put down your creed or state if you believe either creed I copied...
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06-10-2011, 09:06 AM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
Already read it...left a comment but I did not state my creed. I can but...it will be copy and paste from the doctrinal statement of my ministry, and I'm Apostolic.
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06-10-2011, 05:33 PM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle
I should have named this...
I don't believe in Three God's (and other myths about Trinitarians-- and I never knew I was a trinitarian until I was Apostolic) lol
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06-10-2011, 08:18 PM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle
Oh okay. Never ran into that.
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Have you ever heard a trinitarian say "separate and distinct persons"?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-10-2011, 08:26 PM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
The following is a quote from a Trinitarian apologist website
While we must guard against separating the three personages (tritheism ) we must also be aware of the flaw of their being numerically one, they are Distinct but not separate. The church has always maintained the indivisibility of God, being so united that they are three inseparable persons. The traditional doctrine called the perichoresis means the mutual indwelling of the three persons, in that each person permeates the other being united in substance. This guarded against any teaching that there are three separate Gods as in tritheism. That if God were deduced to a mathematical formulae he would not be 1+1+1=3 which would be tritheism, but would be 1x1x1=1, a unified one. None of the persons can exist without the other, they all make up the one God in unity. that each person dwells in the other two which makes God indivisible and unquantifiable, so that wherever one of the persons of God is, all of God is there. What we are not saying is that they separate nor physical.
http://www.letusreason.org/Trin7.htm
Any time a Trinitarian uses the word separate OR describes the persons as though they are separate like two persons in a room are separate, they have violated Trinitarianism and moved into the area of Tritheism
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-10-2011, 09:21 PM
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Re: I never believed in Three Gods
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The following is a quote from a Trinitarian apologist website
While we must guard against separating the three personages (tritheism ) we must also be aware of the flaw of their being numerically one, they are Distinct but not separate. The church has always maintained the indivisibility of God, being so united that they are three inseparable persons. The traditional doctrine called the perichoresis means the mutual indwelling of the three persons, in that each person permeates the other being united in substance. This guarded against any teaching that there are three separate Gods as in tritheism. That if God were deduced to a mathematical formulae he would not be 1+1+1=3 which would be tritheism, but would be 1x1x1=1, a unified one. None of the persons can exist without the other, they all make up the one God in unity. that each person dwells in the other two which makes God indivisible and unquantifiable, so that wherever one of the persons of God is, all of God is there. What we are not saying is that they separate nor physical.
http://www.letusreason.org/Trin7.htm
Any time a Trinitarian uses the word separate OR describes the persons as though they are separate like two persons in a room are separate, they have violated Trinitarianism and moved into the area of Tritheism
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there is nothing wrong in saying distinct persons. The son and Father are distinct persons. They conduct, act and talk with each other as any 2 persons would do. That is not tritheism . The error of oneness view is there is no distinction of person and the One God is acting out 2 roles at the same time, Like a man with a puppet on each hand talking back and forth to each other.
There is so much distinction and Love between the 2 and yes plurality in the scriptures Like we, and Our, that it simple cant be over looked or explained away
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