I appreciate the kind word friend. Yet when God judges nations many in the past have been killed. It might not seem fair. Yet as I recall 70 thousand people died in Israel once because David sinned.
24:12 Go and say unto David, Thus saith the LORD, I offer thee three things; choose thee one of them, that I may do it unto thee.
24:13 So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue thee? or that there be three days' pestilence in thy land? now advise, and see what answer I shall return to him that sent me.
24:14 And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let us fall now into the hand of the LORD; for his mercies are great: and let me not fall into the hand of man.
24:15 So the LORD sent a pestilence upon Israel from the morning even to the time appointed: and there died of the people from Dan even to Beersheba seventy thousand men.
24:16 And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite.
24:17 And David spake unto the LORD when he saw the angel that smote the people, and said, Lo, I have sinned, and I have done wickedly: but these sheep, what have they done? let thine hand, I pray thee, be against me, and against my father's house. 2 Samuel 24:12-17
Note in verse 17 David said he had sinned but said the people were innocent. Of course the judgment was on Israel also but David was distressed over their destruction. It probably seemed to some that YHWH was being unfair.
He is of great mercy praise his name. But his judgments can be furious. He evidently does not want the land given to the Islamists.
I also notice that God didn't judge the people until after David had sinned.
The borders have not been moved back to pre-1967 war. They may never be and they might be....but, God doesn't judge for something that might happen in the future, that's my point.
Further, I hope and pray nobody ever tells that father and mother that their two little baby boys were viciously killed by a tornado, due to God's judgment, because of some future event that may or may not happen in Israel.
I also notice that God didn't judge the people until after David had sinned.
The borders have not been moved back to pre-1967 war. They may never be and they might be....but, God doesn't judge for something that might happen in the future, that's my point.
Further, I hope and pray nobody ever tells that father and mother that their two little baby boys were viciously killed by a tornado, due to God's judgment, because of some future event that may or may not happen in Israel.
Well, if they visit this forum, someone just did...
Well, if they visit this forum, someone just did...
I can't imagine people in the depths of grief that family is in has turned on their computer. And if someone they know does....PLEASE, have mercy on them and do not tell them of this forum or that nut case Joseph Farah. Please!
People are always wanting verification of God moving in the Earth. The article shows a very strong link between America pressuring Israel to give up land and "natural" disasters hitting America.
There probably wont be much stronger "facts" given to man to see.
People are always wanting verification of God moving in the Earth. The article shows a very strong link between America pressuring Israel to give up land and "natural" disasters hitting America.
There probably wont be much stronger "facts" given to man to see.
OK, so what you're saying is God is a jerk.
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People are always wanting verification of God moving in the Earth. The article shows a very strong link between America pressuring Israel to give up land and "natural" disasters hitting America.
There probably wont be much stronger "facts" given to man to see.
What "facts" were being given to man when there were the last horrific tornados? 2009 had some beauts.
These tornados are hitting in the "tornado alley", are we to believe that every natural disaster that occurs is God's judgement?
I love you as a dear Brother in the Lord, Michael, but this is wrong.
I do believe that a crisis can cause someone to turn their lives to the Lord out of pain and desperation, but God doesn't bring tornados, kill innocent baby boys and says...'see here, there'll be no messing with Israel's borders".
Especially since the borders have not got back to 1967.
What "facts" were being given to man when there were the last horrific tornados? 2009 had some beauts.
These tornados are hitting in the "tornado alley", are we to believe that every natural disaster that occurs is God's judgement?
I love you as a dear Brother in the Lord, Michael, but this is wrong.
I do believe that a crisis can cause someone to turn their lives to the Lord out of pain and desperation, but God doesn't bring tornados, kill innocent baby boys and says...'see here, there'll be no messing with Israel's borders".
Especially since the borders have not got back to 1967.
Exactly.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
The Earth is not perfect because it wasn't meant to last for eternity. They are called natural disasters for a reason.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Jesus is saving up His wrath for the Day of Judgement. That is what the bible said. That day is not here yet.
In our world when people leave God out, then he leaves them out of his protection, his power, his blessing.
He cannot bless any nation or government or person who neglect to acknowledge him in all their ways.
It is terrible that there are in fact many who suffer as result of others when things fall upon people. Another reason why believers need to enter into that place where they hear His voice instead of just second guessing they hear it, or not knowing at all what he's direction in life is.
The spirit is there to lead us. To show us things which we need to know.
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