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[MrJob62]

Fred Phelps is a lifelong Democrat. He ran for Governor in Kansas. He worked very hard on alGore's election which failed.
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We Don't know if Al Gore's campaign was successful or not. Every vote was not counted and the Supreme Court made George W Bush President. And of course Jeb Bush hired a firm to remove 85,000 African American voters from the roles for criminal records that only 1 in 10 of them had. The rest were only guilty of trying to vote while being black. I know I voted for Bush that year. Nobody's perfect.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by MrJob62

Fred Phelps is a lifelong Democrat. He ran for Governor in Kansas. He worked very hard on alGore's election which failed.
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We Don't know if Al Gore's campaign was successful or not. Every vote was not counted and the Supreme Court made George W Bush President. And of course Jeb Bush hired a firm to remove 85,000 African American voters from the roles for criminal records that only 1 in 10 of them had. The rest were only guilty of trying to vote while being black. I know I voted for Bush that year. Nobody's perfect.

So, how is it on Conspiracy planet?

You do know all of your post was de-bunked years ago....but, welcome to the 21st century...we've been waiting for you.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by MrJob62

Fred Phelps is a lifelong Democrat. He ran for Governor in Kansas. He worked very hard on alGore's election which failed.
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We Don't know if Al Gore's campaign was successful or not. Every vote was not counted and the Supreme Court made George W Bush President. And of course Jeb Bush hired a firm to remove 85,000 African American voters from the roles for criminal records that only 1 in 10 of them had. The rest were only guilty of trying to vote while being black. I know I voted for Bush that year. Nobody's perfect.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Cindy

[MrJob62]

Originally Posted by sandie

So, how is it on Conspiracy planet?

You do know all of your post was de-bunked years ago....but, welcome to the 21st century...we've been waiting for you.

That is just not true! Please show me when and where the votes were counted.

Here is a little part of the article from Wikipedia "Between May 1999 and Election Day 2000, two Florida secretaries of state - Sandra Mortham and Katherine Harris, contracted with a new company (DBT Online Inc.), at an increase of $4.294 million to have the "scrub list"'s re-worked. Nearly 1% of Florida's electorate and nearly 3% of its African-American voters - 96,000 citizens were listed as felons and removed from the voting rolls. (For instance, many had names similar to actual felons, some listed "felonies" were dated years in the future, and some apparently were random.) In a vast minority of cases, those on the scrub list were given several months to appeal, and some successfully reregistered and were allowed to vote. However, most were not told that they weren't allowed to vote until they were turned away at the polls. The company was directed not to use cross-checks or its sophisticated verification plan (used by the FBI).[16]"

Here is another citation from investigative reporter Greg Palast "Here's how to estimate the effect of spoilage on the election outcome. For fun, let's take Florida 2000. We know from comparison of census tracts to precincts that 54% of the 179,855 ballots "spoiled" were cast by African-American voters, that is, 97,000 of the total.

Every poll put the Black vote in Florida for Al Gore at over 90%. Reasonably assuming "spoiled" ballots matched the typical racial preferences, Gore lost more than 87,000 votes in the spoilage pile. Less than 10% of the African-American population voted for Mr. Bush, i.e. Bush lost no more than 10,000 votes to spoilage. The net effect: Gore had a plurality of at least 77,000 within the uncounted ballots cast by Black citizens.

OK, then, what about "Non-Black" voters, whose votes made up the remaining 46% of the spoilage pile? Well, frankly, you can ignore these, as these voters split their vote somewhat evenly between Gore and Bush. Sticklers wanting a closer exam would note that Gore probably won a majority of these votes as well. Moreover, the only large group of spoiled votes in a wealthy white county occurred in Palm Beach (due to "butterfly" ballots), a rare, rich white group of strongly Democratic voters.

Now you can dazzle your Republican friends with the real vote count -- Gore won Florida by 77,000 in 2000. But they figure you already spend too much time concerned about issues like democracy and too little time concerned about guns and tax cuts."

In order for something to be debunked there has to be proof not just Fox News saying it was debunked. See I voted for Bush because he said he was pro-life but a million dead Iraqis say otherwise.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by MrJob62

That is just not true! Please show me when and where the votes were counted.

Here is a little part of the article from Wikipedia "Between May 1999 and Election Day 2000, two Florida secretaries of state - Sandra Mortham and Katherine Harris, contracted with a new company (DBT Online Inc.), at an increase of $4.294 million to have the "scrub list"'s re-worked. Nearly 1% of Florida's electorate and nearly 3% of its African-American voters - 96,000 citizens were listed as felons and removed from the voting rolls. (For instance, many had names similar to actual felons, some listed "felonies" were dated years in the future, and some apparently were random.) In a vast minority of cases, those on the scrub list were given several months to appeal, and some successfully reregistered and were allowed to vote. However, most were not told that they weren't allowed to vote until they were turned away at the polls. The company was directed not to use cross-checks or its sophisticated verification plan (used by the FBI).[16]"

Here is another citation from investigative reporter Greg Palast "Here's how to estimate the effect of spoilage on the election outcome. For fun, let's take Florida 2000. We know from comparison of census tracts to precincts that 54% of the 179,855 ballots "spoiled" were cast by African-American voters, that is, 97,000 of the total.

Every poll put the Black vote in Florida for Al Gore at over 90%. Reasonably assuming "spoiled" ballots matched the typical racial preferences, Gore lost more than 87,000 votes in the spoilage pile. Less than 10% of the African-American population voted for Mr. Bush, i.e. Bush lost no more than 10,000 votes to spoilage. The net effect: Gore had a plurality of at least 77,000 within the uncounted ballots cast by Black citizens.

OK, then, what about "Non-Black" voters, whose votes made up the remaining 46% of the spoilage pile? Well, frankly, you can ignore these, as these voters split their vote somewhat evenly between Gore and Bush. Sticklers wanting a closer exam would note that Gore probably won a majority of these votes as well. Moreover, the only large group of spoiled votes in a wealthy white county occurred in Palm Beach (due to "butterfly" ballots), a rare, rich white group of strongly Democratic voters.

Now you can dazzle your Republican friends with the real vote count -- Gore won Florida by 77,000 in 2000. But they figure you already spend too much time concerned about issues like democracy and too little time concerned about guns and tax cuts."

In order for something to be debunked there has to be proof not just Fox News saying it was debunked. See I voted for Bush because he said he was pro-life but a million dead Iraqis say otherwise.

Like I said, welcome to the 21st century.
It's all been de-bunked. I'm not going back that many years and researching the outcome for you...but, feel free to do so on your own time.

[MrJob62]

Originally Posted by sandie

Like I said, welcome to the 21st century.
It's all been de-bunked. I'm not going back that many years and researching the outcome for you...but, feel free to do so on your own time.

That is what I thought you would say. I felt the same way when I first checked it out my self. You don't have to look very hard to find these stories and their veracity is not in question they are just not reported, not even by MSNBC.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by MrJob62

Fred Phelps is a lifelong Democrat. He ran for Governor in Kansas. He worked very hard on alGore's election which failed.
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We Don't know if Al Gore's campaign was successful or not. Every vote was not counted and the Supreme Court made George W Bush President. And of course Jeb Bush hired a firm to remove 85,000 African American voters from the roles for criminal records that only 1 in 10 of them had. The rest were only guilty of trying to vote while being black. I know I voted for Bush that year. Nobody's perfect.

WHINE, WHINE, WHINE.... you may have voted for Bush but that proves nothing. You are a democrat at heart and your speech betrays you. Get a life .... Oh, I forgot, "It's Bush's fault!" You guys are a joke. WHINE, WHINE, WHINE! Would you like a little cheese with your WHINE?
And as far as companies being moved overseas.... did you ever hear of Unions and their contracts and medical plans and retirements that can't be paid for by the states because of the excesses? Could that be a part of the problem MrJob62. This ain't 62, this is 2011! Wake up!

BT

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by MrJob62

That is what I thought you would say. I felt the same way when I first checked it out my self. You don't have to look very hard to find these stories and their veracity is not in question they are just not reported, not even by MSNBC.

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!!!
If there was anything truth in them that would slam the conservatives I'm sure the main stream media bunch would be reporting it!

BT

[sandie]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!!!
If there was anything truth in them that would slam the conservatives I'm sure the main stream media bunch would be reporting it!

BT

The mainstream media made a buzzing bee line for Florida as soon as they got the okay. Not even the NY Times was able to find fraud, oh they tried, and if they thought they could have got away with it...they would have plastered it all over their front page.
What? There were no NY Time headlines saying they found the truth...Gore Won!
Mrjob lives in la la land.