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Old 05-25-2011, 01:53 PM
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Re: Republicans lose

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There's a 500billon cut in medicare thru Obamacare. That's how it's getting funded up front.
I wonder why BO cutting medicare gets a pass and anything that the republicans suggest is doa?
The Ryan plan would not take effect for 10 years and it would acutally be debated, and have to pass. The first is taking place, the second is highly unlikely.
So, when the funds completley disappear, then what?
I didn't give Obamacare a pass. I can disagree with both agendas. I refuse to hand my brain over to one party.
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Old 05-25-2011, 02:33 PM
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I didn't give Obamacare a pass. I can disagree with both agendas. I refuse to hand my brain over to one party.
I agree.

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Old 05-25-2011, 02:43 PM
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I didn't give Obamacare a pass. I can disagree with both agendas. I refuse to hand my brain over to one party.
The Obama care getting a pass was rhetorical. I should have made that clear.

But, something has to be done.



Medicare, Social Security running out of money faster
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By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner says Medicare and Social Security need quick fixes.CAPTIONBy Alex Brandon, APMedicare's trust fund will run dry in 2024, five years earlier than forecast just last year, and Social Security's will be exhaused by 2036, adding fuel to the debate over cutting one or both programs to reduce annual budget deficits.
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:21 PM
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Re: Republicans lose

The Path to Prosperity (Episode 1): America's two futures, visualized

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwv5EbxXSmE


The Path to Prosperity (Episode 2): Saving Medicare, visualized


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJIC7...mbedded#at=187

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Old 05-25-2011, 03:37 PM
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Ten Myths of Ryan’s House Budget Plan

Myth #1: The House budget recklessly cuts taxes by $4 trillion.

Fact: It cancels a future tax increase.

Myth #2: The House budget increases the deficit by giving tax cuts to the rich.

Fact: The proposed change is a revenue-neutral tax reform plan that simplifies the tax code.

Myth #3:
The House budget represents only minor deficit reduction.

Fact: It substantially reduces both short- and long-term budget deficits.

Myth #4: The House budget exaggerates the long-term spending challenge.

Fact:
The challenge is real and potentially calamitous.

Myth #5: The House budget balances the budget on the backs of seniors.

Fact: Current and near-retirees are exempt from reforms.

Myth #6: The House budget would privatize Medicare and hand seniors vouchers.

Fact: Seniors would receive government support to purchase health insurance coverage on a tightly regulated government exchange system.

Myth #7:
Medicare is more efficient than private health insurance.

Fact:
Medicare’s administrative burdens are hidden and they outweigh private-sector costs.

Myth #8: The House budget plan would end Medicare as we know it.

Fact: Obamacare ended Medicare as we know it.

Myth #9:
The House budget plan would shift Medicaid costs to the states and hurt the poor.

Fact: Medicaid block grants would help states lower Medicaid costs and provide them with the flexibility to better serve the poor.

Myth #10: Most Medicare costs would continue to rise, and retirees would bear those costs with insufficient assistance.

Fact: Intense market competition would reduce costs and enable Medicare patients to secure value for their dollars.

It is just what the nation needs in order to avert a debt-induced economic calamity. Its critics would do well to read the plan and understand it—and put forward their alternative—before dismissing it.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Rep...se-Budget-Plan
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A rare Geppetto for Paul Ryan’s assertion on Obama’s hidden top marginal tax rate

“I say that, at a time when the tax burden on the wealthy is at its lowest level in half a century, the most fortunate among us can afford to pay a little more.”

— President Obama, April 13, 2011

“The president says he wants to eliminate deductions, but he also wants to raise rates. That includes raising the top rate to 44.8 percent.”

— Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), May 16, 2011


Ryan’s speech to the Economic Club of Chicago on Monday caught our attention with its figure of a top marginal tax rate of almost 45 percent.

The Pinocchio Test

Paul Ryan’s attention-getting figure adds up and appears credible, so Ryan earns the rare Geppetto Checkmark.


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Ryan 40, Obama 0

The Senate just finished voting on the Paul Ryan/House Republican budget resolution, as well as the budget put forward by President Obama in February. Both, as expected, were voted down, but only Ryan’s received any votes.

Indeed, the Obama budget failed by the astounding final count of 0 to 97.
Not even Bernie Sanders (S., Vt.) could bring himself to support the president’s plan.

The Ryan budget, on the other hand, was voted down 40 to 57,
with five Republicans — Sens. Brown, Collins, Murkowski, Paul and Snowe — voting ‘no,’ along with every Democrat.

Votes on the budget proposals put forward by Sens. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) and Rand Paul (R., Ky.) are expected shortly.

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Re: Republicans lose

The title of this thread shows what's wrong with politics and our country's leaders. It's all about the party, not the people.
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The title of this thread shows what's wrong with politics and our country's leaders. It's all about the party, not the people.
But a democracy is made of opposing views, plans and ideas. We wouldn't be complete without them. Fighting for your party when it is wrong and you know it is wrong is where I see the biggest problem.
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