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Old 05-21-2011, 01:46 PM
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Re: False Religion...Need some solid advise.

Allow me to claify my intentions. I'm not looking to make waves. I'm personnaly not affected by this situation anymore. As far as being labled a backslider who left the truth....well Ive already been called that lol...The opinions of men matter very little to me. God knows my heart...i answer to him...and thats it. The way I see it, there are 2 reasons to report this...one, is for the sake of the other people that stayed. two if for the reason that basicly he has lied to the UPC about what he really believes...and if they knew what he truely belived...well then he licenced would most likely be revoked and a new pastor would be brought in....then theres the side that...what do i care? I'm hundreds of miles away now and its not my problem....I see both perspectives. been praying about this for a few weeks now. theres not really any rush to do anyhting....i just needed some ccounsil and frankly i didnt want to go to anybody i know in real life becasue i kn ow this has the potental to get messy. Thank all of you for your advice. God bless you guys.
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Old 05-21-2011, 04:15 PM
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Re: False Religion...Need some solid advise.

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i say place this in the lords hands give it to him its way to big for you,and pray for those in the church ,god is able to do great and mighty things god bless
Paul would not say to deal with things with the church in 1 Cor 6 if we were meant to just leave it to the Lord. Matt 18 tells us that where 2 or 3 gather in his name to deal with unrepentant people, it's as if He were present Himself. This is the Lord's will.
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Old 05-21-2011, 06:01 PM
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Re: False Religion...Need some solid advise.

If this were an independent cell group leader or something I'd say just leave it...Since this minister is UPC licensed and he could potentially be harming believers (which he is by claiming we are all "little Jesus'"), I'd report it with another witness to the authorities in the district. You might be labeled as a malcontent if you don't; then again, depending on the district, you could bring 50 witnesses and still be labeled a malcontent if it's a hardline district.
Praying about it helps, too...
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:39 AM
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Re: False Religion...Need some solid advise.

I have just one thing to say, or should I say ask, how in the world do leaders like this get the absolute control over people? Because we have misrepresented passages of Scripture to say what they don't. Jesus set the example as to how leadership is to be conducted in the church. Jesus never set himself up over the people and neither did he teach those he called to set themselves up over the people. One man should never have control over a group or be in a postion to cause other to follow him into false doctrine. On the other hand those that are still with him are not better than blind sheep that don't care as they won't study for themselves the word to see the errors of this mans teaching.

If the church is affiliated with UPCI than the org. can remove him but it will not be easy unless the whole group that is still thier votes him out. If the church is not affiliated and only the pastor carries license there is little the org. can do, other than take his credetials. It seem that those that will hear the voice of God have already taken God's advice and left not much else you can do now.
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