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05-05-2011, 10:11 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Originally Posted by canam
Ah ,ah , ah, we cant call it global war on terror ,no such thing, Barwreck said so , he ordered them to not use that phrase anymore ,same as illegals , its just a little dissagreement .Coadie what was the phrase they are supposed to use now??
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Its "Overseas Contingency Operation" now roflmbo,to everyone else except the non pc and OBL. He cant vouch for it being any better
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05-05-2011, 10:43 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
“Certainly it would be a violation of international law to shoot someone who is trying to surrender,” said John Bellinger III, who served as legal adviser to the National Security Council and the State Department during the George W. Bush administration.
“On the other hand, just because someone is unarmed doesn’t mean that they don’t pose a threat and that the use of force is inappropriate,” he said. “It’s essentially up to the judgment of the soldiers on the ground as to whether they feel they are facing an imminent threat and can use force.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...QsF_story.html
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05-05-2011, 10:57 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
Try to tell the love ones of 9/11 that it was illegal. And the love ones of the firemen that are still dying because of trying to help the people that day. It is NOT patriotic in saying it was illegal. People of our country that makes such a statement are not true Americans or they are racist. It was very heroic of our President and the Navy Seals.
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05-05-2011, 11:10 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Originally Posted by Seascapes
Try to tell the love ones of 9/11 that it was illegal. And the love ones of the firemen that are still dying because of trying to help the people that day. It is NOT patriotic in saying it was illegal. People of our country that makes such a statement are not true Americans or they are racist. It was very heroic of our President and the Navy Seals.
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Congress writes laws. The Geneva Convention writes laws of war etc.
It is OK that you offer assertions and con't support them.
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05-05-2011, 11:17 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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By the way, a Fox News correspondent confirmed that the intel used to locate bin laden was not gathered by waterboarding, since you were the one who mentioned it.
Her confirmation is in the video I posted.
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JD, Bush insider Karl Rove yesterday said the the enhanced interrogations were less about getting solid intel as it was to break the will of the detainees. Once broken they would cooperate and be forthcoming with valuable intel. He said KSM, once broken through EI, would call for the interrogators to come and sit with him as he conducted almost seminar like sessions on Al Qaeda and its inner workings.
That was an eye opener for me. It made a lot more sense. The EI played a vital role to break the will of the detainees that led to their cooperation later.
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05-05-2011, 11:21 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Congress writes laws. The Geneva Convention writes laws of war etc. It is OK that you offer assertions and con't support them.
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coadie, the Geneva Convention writes the laws of war, and if Congress did what they should have done, then Bush and Cheney would be in prison today. We all know the truth. They were afraid that if democrats went into office, then they would be in prison. Be thankful that our President didn't want to use the money on lawyers and court cost for the American people to have to pay with their taxes.
You have to admit coadie, that many people are against President Obama, simply because his skin color is darker. I know, because I have some stupid relatives that has made stupid racist remarks, and they are STUPID, but I still pray for them.
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05-05-2011, 11:26 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Congress writes laws. The Geneva Convention writes laws of war etc.
It is OK that you offer assertions and con't support them.
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I believe had Bush done this the liberals and media would be working this angle. That being said I don't believe the Geneva Convention applies to terrorists and I don't believe what our Navy SEALS did was illegal. We made it clear anyone getting in our way of brining these people to justice would suffer the consequences. Pakistan obviously knew something, they would've tipped OBL off had we communicated our intentions or sought permission. We did it exactly right.
Besides, we let Pakistan off the hook with terrorists by keeping them out of the loop on this. No one can blame Pakistani cooperation. I'm sure their leaders, even if publicly complaining, are breathing a huge sigh of relief. Who would want the burden of harboring OBL in their country?
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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05-05-2011, 11:30 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Originally Posted by Seascapes
coadie, the Geneva Convention writes the laws of war, and if Congress did what they should have done, then Bush and Cheney would be in prison today. We all know the truth. They were afraid that if democrats went into office, then they would be in prison. Be thankful that our President didn't want to use the money on lawyers and court cost for the American people to have to pay with their taxes.
You have to admit coadie, that many people are against President Obama, simply because his skin color is darker. I know, because I have some stupid relatives that has made stupid racist remarks, and they are STUPID, but I still pray for them.
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You are not honest enough to share the laws that Bush and Cheney broke?
Off the top of your head, can you give an example of Congress putting someone in Jail? Conductng a criminal trial?
You mention court costs. Did you know the gubment runs a judiciary that is outside of Congress?
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05-05-2011, 11:35 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
I believe had Bush done this the liberals and media would be working this angle. That being said I don't believe the Geneva Convention applies to terrorists and I don't believe what our Navy SEALS did was illegal. We made it clear anyone getting in our way of brining these people to justice would suffer the consequences. Pakistan obviously knew something, they would've tipped OBL off had we communicated our intentions or sought permission. We did it exactly right.
Besides, we let Pakistan off the hook with terrorists by keeping them out of the loop on this. No one can blame Pakistani cooperation. I'm sure their leaders, even if publicly complaining, are breathing a huge sigh of relief. Who would want the burden of harboring OBL in their country?
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I don't have a problem with what happened. Sometimes the right thing to do is hard to do the "correct" way.
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05-05-2011, 11:36 AM
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Re: FOX News: Illegal to Kill Osama
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You are not honest enough to share the laws that Bush and Cheney broke?
Off the top of your head, can you give an example of Congress putting someone in Jail? Conductng a criminal trial?
You mention court costs. Did you know the gubment runs a judiciary that is outside of Congress?
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Just for one, off the top, going to war on lies and killing over 100,000 of the innocent people of Iraq, and over 5,000 of our men and women. President Clinton was taken to court on really nothing that did not hurt anyone, only his moral values. The waterboarding was against the Geneva Convention, we all know the facts.
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