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Old 03-16-2011, 10:40 AM
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Re: Newt Gingrich: CPAC 2011

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His chances and the chances of those like him grow every electoral cycle. The change is coming and nothing can stop it. Those following after Ron Paul are young and are in this thing for the long haul. The Republican party is headed back to it's roots of a Republic form of government.

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Old 03-16-2011, 12:38 PM
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Re: Newt Gingrich: CPAC 2011

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Ron Paul has as much chance winning the Republican nomination as I do. He is a nut. He many times wins the straw polls of extremists. I like most of Newt's positions and he is a brilliant man. However he has major character flaws.

I might be willing to overlook Newt's moral issues if he were running for a lessor office and there were no better candiates but for the highest office in the land I do not want a man who cheated on two successive wives to end up with the one he has now (serving the first one with divorce papers while she was in chemo treatment for cancer no less).

The funny thing is I don't think Newt would approve of anybody with his character record being elected to office other than himself. He would be tearing up a Democrat canidate who had done what he has done as unfit to be President.
Just what all are Newt's character flaws?
How much of this is documented and how much is gossip/hearsay?
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:55 PM
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Just what all are Newt's character flaws?
How much of this is documented and how much is gossip/hearsay?
If you google it you will find an interview with Newt just this week or last week where he talks about the subject. You will also find tons of news stories about the incidents and I am not talking the National Enquirer. The affairs are something Newt readily admits. No gossip.

It is FACT that he served his first wife divorce papers while she was going through chemo for cancer so he could marry his mistress (who he was having an affair with while castigating Bill Clinton for the Monica Lewinski affair). He then had an affair with his current wife while married to the woman he left his cancer stricken wife for. Left the second wife (who got what was coming to her) for the current one and she deserves to have him leave her for yet another one.

I am not a Newt hater. I am just extremely disappointed that one of the great conservative minds of the 20th and 21st centuries is so incredibly flawed in his character.
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:02 PM
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I remember in 2008 having to endure the Ron Paul syncophants touting how he was winning all sorts of online polls (because hardcore fans of anything or anybody can vote online a few thousand times each) and activist straw polls and this supposedly meant he had widespread appeal. Just not so.

I am a true conservative so don't try to say I am not. It is ridiculous just because I am not a yellow dog pacifist like Ron Paul who thinks if you ignore the world it will just go away and leave you alone that I am not conservative.

The thought that America can just pull all foreign aid is nuts. We use that money to influence countries and events for our National Security and to help poor nations. Do I like some of the policies? Of course not! Do I know that a lot of the money is abused by foreign leaders? Of course!

I think libertarians are just as delusional as commuinists. The libertarian concept of government would cause massive chaos and makes no sense in a society as complicated as ours and as populated with idiots who have no self control, knowledge of government, ethics, etc.
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Re: Newt Gingrich: CPAC 2011

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Ron Paul has as much chance winning the Republican nomination as I do. He is a nut. He many times wins the straw polls of extremists. I like most of Newt's positions and he is a brilliant man. However he has major character flaws.

I might be willing to overlook Newt's moral issues if he were running for a lessor office and there were no better candiates but for the highest office in the land I do not want a man who cheated on two successive wives to end up with the one he has now (serving the first one with divorce papers while she was in chemo treatment for cancer no less).

The funny thing is I don't think Newt would approve of anybody with his character record being elected to office other than himself. He would be tearing up a Democrat canidate who had done what he has done as unfit to be President.
And his second one had multiple scelrosis when he kicked her to the curb
.Having said that, if its him and BO im voting for Newt. and im a dem.
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As much as I am starting to agree with some of Ron Pauls viewpoints, he has no chance against BO.
I also think that Newt has no chance, due to his past personal life.
Newt wasted a very promising political career, because he could not handle his personal life.
He is one of the great thinkers in the country, but that will not make him President.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:15 AM
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Not so sure ,if BO(with his utter lack of accomplishments or track record,and a track record of socialist leanings) and Clinton(with a trail of sexual conquests in his past) can get elected, almost anyone can.Voters just flat ignored the evidence in both cases.
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As much as I am starting to agree with some of Ron Pauls viewpoints
You... and millions more.

If all of the information one works with is what they get from the mainstream media this is how they will feel. Ron Paul is increasing greatly in popularity and that popularity grows day by day.

He's won the straw poll at CPAC 2 years running but... mainstream media hasn't said... Oh my... he's SO popular so... he has no chance.

Until he actually wins no one will believe because the mainstream media doesn't say he has a chance. Although... the man stays very busy with mainstream media interviews because he called this current economical condition when no one else saw it and called him crazy for saying it.

He knew it was coming
He knows how to fix it.
And NOBODY else on the presidential candidate scene has even a clue on what is even going wrong. Much less how to fix it.

If he doesn't get elected then everybody can at least have the satisfaction that the kept fiddling the tune of same old, same old do nothing republicrats until the last memory of what this country used to be passes under the waves.
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