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Old 03-02-2011, 05:51 AM
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Re: Apostle's Baptism???

John 4:2 states that Jesus did not baptize "but his disciples" in old English but could also mean EXCEPT so it stands to reason that they were baptized , and if they were his disciples [ which they were ] tic , they were baptized in his name.They were followers of his.Taught by him . Then they passed that info on to us.
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Re: Apostle's Baptism???

To be baptized in Jesus' Name means to be baptized by His authority or as authorized by Him. Some believe His name has to be verbally spoken to baptize in His name and some believe if you baptize using the words He spoke to the ones authorized to baptize you are indeed baptizing "in His name" or "by His authority" or "as authorized by Him." There are differences of opinion among Christians on this.
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In all likelihood the Apostles were baptized by Jesus who in turn baptized others in Jesus name, yes even before the cross
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Re: Apostle's Baptism???

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"...depends on what the meaning of eis is."
"Eis" in Greek is as ambiguous as "for" is in English.
It can mean "in order to obtain" and it can mean "because of"

like the old Western Reward Poster

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for (because of) bank robbery.
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for (in order to obtain) reward.

There have been many posts here parading quotes from Greek Experts by those who see it either way. The "Experts" don't agree.

We can't "prove" anything by just the use of Acts 2:38.
We have to take the body of Scripture and interpret Acts 2:38 by it.
And even here Christians don't all agree among ourselves.

Some say water baptism properly administered with the correct words invoked washes away sin. Some say remission of sin is different than forgiveness/pardon of sin. Some believe water baptism cleanses just like holy water and pagan purification rites. Some say water baptism is a symbolic cleansing but does not actually wash away or remove any sin. This is one of those things that Christians don't agree on.
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Re: Apostle's Baptism???

BTW that is the whole point of Matthew 28 and perhaps one of the reasons many scholars think this is not the original wording.

The disciples were to go make MORE disciples unto Jesus, which is associated with baptism
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