Electric Cars and the Environment?

[Praxeas]

Interesting pro vs con site on wind power
http://www.energy-consumers-edge.com...ind_power.html

[Azzan]

I don't think wind power alone is the answer to our energy needs. I don't think any single green technology is going to be answer but we should be doing what we can where we can to harness wind, solar, thermal, hydro and so on.

I personally can't wait to purchase an electric car. I've been waiting ever since GM built and scrapped the EV1. I think the my wait is about over.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Prax, my dad works on an oil lease in Santa Barbara County, they have been forced to reduce their emissions by spending millions to convert the pumps to electric while at the same time burning natural gas to get rid of it because it costs more to store it than they can get out of it.

I wonder what happened to T. Boon and his natural gas plans? And why we continue to drive the price of our own oil up because of the cost of all the regulations.

T Boone Pickenscancelled over 1 billion dollars in his order for GE wind turbines. He knows that success for wind power depends on subsidies. This happened last month after the November election. Natural gas powered turbines are required for generation back up on non windy days. In the winter, many turbines don't turn.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Azzan

I don't think wind power alone is the answer to our energy needs. I don't think any single green technology is going to be answer but we should be doing what we can where we can to harness wind, solar, thermal, hydro and so on.

I personally can't wait to purchase an electric car. I've been waiting ever since GM built and scrapped the EV1. I think the my wait is about over.

The UK is ahead of North America to closing down coal and going to wind.
They sold 55 units of electric cars in 2009. Is that an awesome trend or what?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Hey, I do recall seeing in SBC there is a "stack" or some kind of release valve where fire is always burning from. Its like a giant candle you can see every night you drive down the coast...I wonder if that is where your dad works.

yeah it sucks to have to burn off such a precious commodity that is too expensive to store

Much of those flares came from burning Methane CH4 at refiners are now gone.


Enron wind was the early freeloader in California for wind power. After they went broke and damaged California in many ways, the product was moved and is now GE Wind.

Enron Clinton James Hansen and a couple others started the cap and trade regulation concepts for SOX, NOX, COX and CH4

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by coadie

T Boone Pickenscancelled over 1 billion dollars in his order for GE wind turbines. He knows that success for wind power depends on subsidies. This happened last month after the November election. Natural gas powered turbines are required for generation back up on non windy days. In the winter, many turbines don't turn.

We should be creating more stuff to run off of natural gas. That was one of T Boone's big pushes besides the wind farm.

We are burning up natural energy because we have limited ways to use it, and we have to remove it to get to the oil below it.

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by coadie

T Boone Pickenscancelled over 1 billion dollars in his order for GE wind turbines. He knows that success for wind power depends on subsidies. This happened last month after the November election. Natural gas powered turbines are required for generation back up on non windy days. In the winter, many turbines don't turn.

I'm curious, where have you heard or read that?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Interesting pro vs con site on wind power
http://www.energy-consumers-edge.com...ind_power.html

Prax, who has runs the wind farm in Tehachapi? That has been there for years I remember it being there at least 20 years ago.

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by coadie

The UK is ahead of North America to closing down coal and going to wind.
They sold 55 units of electric cars in 2009. Is that an awesome trend or what?

It's a start. The pratical electric car isn't quite here yet.

[Cindy]

How do you store wind power?