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Old 01-07-2011, 05:26 PM
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I find AFF to be a great place to bounce ideas off of others. Sometimes you get useful input and other times you don't. That's because humans are involved (including myself.)

Some people view it as an endless source of questions, doubts etc.

I view the opposite as an endless source of back patting where everyone thinks the same and never challenge prevailing thought.

One is nice, clean, cut & dried and fosters no growth.

One is a bit untidy and rambles around a bit but it offers opportunity to learn and grow.

I'll take the latter.

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My wife and I have been doing a little research on Jewish Theology and have found some interesting concepts used by Rabbi's. One that fascinated me was that they believe there are 70 different interpretations to every "Word" in Scripture (Torah), and they are ALL right!

They also believe the Scripture to possess 4 different meanings to every event; allegorical, metaphorical, mystical, and literal, and they are ALL right.

It seems that 2 people can disagree on Scripture using the above method(s), yet they are both right.
Within the Jewish religious circles this saying was first coined:

"Where there are two Jews, there are three opinions."

Hmmm Sounds a lot like AFF to me!
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Within the Jewish religious circles this saying was first coined:

"Where there are two Jews, there are three opinions."

Hmmm Sounds a lot like AFF to me!
LOL! Love it!!!
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MY my my... another racist thread.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380143,00.html
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Within the Jewish religious circles this saying was first coined:

"Where there are two Jews, there are three opinions."

Hmmm Sounds a lot like AFF to me!
This is great!! My wife and I got a good laugh on this one!!
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:04 PM
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Well, so far, Not4Sale's statement hasn't been "sucked into oblivion."

I've come to think of the Bible as being a sort of Guidebook, and not some sort of Final Jeopardy style know-it-all "Answer Book." If you go to the Bible looking for absolute answers to everything, you often come back looking rather foolish. Just look at the Young Earth Creationists.
Appearently the way to be enlightened is to deny the inspiration of scripture, treating it as a buffet. Deny God's account of the creation of the universe, earth, mankind, flood, languages, miracles of the Exodus, walls of Jereicho, etc, but of course accept the virgin birth (if you still do) and the ressurection (how convenient). Yep that makes one wise.
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Appearently the way to be enlightened is to deny the inspiration of scripture, treating it as a buffet. Deny God's account of the creation of the universe, earth, mankind, flood, languages, miracles of the Exodus, walls of Jereicho, etc, but of course accept the virgin birth (if you still do) and the ressurection (how convenient). Yep that makes one wise.
I know, right?
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:15 PM
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To be honest, I was thinking of this very thing today. The Bible is truly an amazing Book. I don't think any other Book on Earth is really quite like it. It can basically go whatever direction you go, and I think this might be the dilemma with people who try to define Scripture.

It appears that God may be a lot more flexible than we think. My wife and I have been doing a little research on Jewish Theology and have found some interesting concepts used by Rabbi's. One that fascinated me was that they believe there are 70 different interpretations to every "Word" in Scripture (Torah), and they are ALL right!
A nice theory, but common sense tells us there cannot be contradicting "truths".....

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They also believe the Scripture to possess 4 different meanings to every event; allegorical, metaphorical, mystical, and literal, and they are ALL right.

It seems that 2 people can disagree on Scripture using the above method(s), yet they are both right.
I never heard the "they are all right" about the 4 interpretations. I think it is quite obvious that allegory is a very flimsy interpretation of scripture. To say nothing of mysticism. Maybe those types of beliefs attributed to Jesus telling those whose lifework was to know the law "you do err, not knowing the scriptures" and "have you not read?"

Nothing new, those who are pastors today who "know" the scriptures, don't "know" the scriptures. With their liberal theology and naturalistic explanations they have robbed the scripture of inspiration and attempt to discredit the only Word of God we posess. Without Biblical authority, there remains no authority, we can all be right in our own minds (unless we affirm that another book such as the Quaran, Book of Mormon, Vedas, etc is the Word of God).

The view which takes inspiration away from the Bible is the height of folly, and despite the criticisms of the Bible it continues to be vindicated time and time again.

Call me fundamentalist, simple, whatever, I still believe that God's word is true, and the promises are true. I have experienced this miraculously in my life and though I don't have the answers to all the "why" questions, I certainly do believe that God is able to make all things work together for good.
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