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01-02-2011, 12:14 PM
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Re: President Obama
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I don't believe anyone is punished with a baby, but I do believe that the punishment is carrying a baby that was conceived in a way of rape, and also the possibility of the mother dying at child birth. Until you have been there, we don't know how that mother feels, so until you are there, let the mother have a voice in the matter, the rapist did.
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Why do you continue to bring up the life of the mother when it comes to abortion on demand rights? I posted the truth on that matter. It has never ever been illegal to abort when it was truly the life of the mother. That's a red herring that you may think serves to somehow justify your postion on abortion rights?
And why do you look down on a child who was concieved in rape? It is the only instance in which a crime has been committed and the only innocent bystander is executed.
Further, that instance is very rare when it comes to abortion, this too you've had explained.
Are you willing to see nearly 4,000 babies die a gruesome deaths in this country so those babies can be killed?
How do you stand before a just and Holy God who says all children are a heritage and all children are made in His Image and explain your support of abortion on demand rights?
On another thread you're highly concerned on the outward appearance of a Christian, yet the murder of innocent unborn children can be excused?
How is that explained, I'm very curious. Maybe I can learn something here.
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01-02-2011, 02:06 PM
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Re: President Obama
I do not look down on a baby that was conceived in rape, I am not carrying it. By the way you are not either. It is the woman that is carrying the baby should have the right to feel anyway she does. She is the one that was raped.
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01-02-2011, 02:34 PM
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Re: President Obama
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I do not look down on a baby that was conceived in rape, I am not carrying it. By the way you are not either. It is the woman that is carrying the baby should have the right to feel anyway she does. She is the one that was raped.
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And where in any of this is the right for a woman to kill her unborn child?
Have you researched the effects of a woman carrying a child to term that has been raped vs. a woman who aborts?
I'd also like to know why it's just this "hot button" part of abortion rights you bring up?
What about the over 99% of abortions that are performed for reasons other than rape? How do you defend those abortions in light of God saying "thou shall not murder" or in light of the gifts of the Spirit? And where within those Scritpural truths do you find the right for a mother to take the life of her unborn child?
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01-02-2011, 03:06 PM
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Re: President Obama
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These are some of the accomplishments by our President....
Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
Protects..public health and prohibits tobacco companies from targeting children
Creation of ‘Solar Energy Zones’
The Interior and Energy Departments..identified suitable 'solar energy zones' on public lands to help move America toward greater energy innovation and independence
Veterans’ Benefits Act of 2010:..
Improves..employment opportunities for veterans, prevents homelessness, ensures the well-being of veterans and their families, honors fallen service members, and more
Food Safety Modernization Act
Overhauls..America’s food safety system to helps ensure consumers are not at risk
Small Business Jobs Act
Promotes..job creation and spurs private-sector growth
Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
Expands..national service programs and encourages more Americans to get involved in their communities
Human Rights Enforcement Act..
Helps..enforce human rights laws and improves existing laws regarding genocide and child soldier recruitment
Race to the Top Education Reform
Raises..education and achievement standards though local and inter-state competition, improves teacher accountability, encourages “best practices,” supports innovative data systems, and more
Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act
Improves..standards for meal nutrition in schools and aims to reduce child obesity and hunger
Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment (HIRE)..Act
Cut..taxes for companies that hired employees who have been job hunting for 60 days or more
Passing Credit Card Reform (CARD Act)
Protects Americans from unfair and misleading credit card practices
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Ensures..that all workers in America are paid what they deserve, regardless of race, gender, or age
Supreme Court Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan
President Obama nominated and the Senate confirmed Associate Justices..Sonia Sotomayor..and..Elena Kagan..to the Supreme Court.. ....
Student Loan Reform
Helps make college more..affordable..for students and families
Wall Street Reform
Holds Wall Street..accountable, ends "too big to fail" bailouts, and enacts the strongest consumer protections in history
The New START Treaty.......... ..........
Keeps..America safe and strengthens our global leadership on nuclear weapons issues ........................
..‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Repeal
Ends..the discriminatory policy preventing gays and lesbians from serving in America’s armed forces
Ending combat operations in Iraq
Effectively ends..Operation Iraqi Freedom..and withdraws 100,000 troops
The Recovery Act
Saves and creates..millions of jobs, investing unprecedented resources in building a new foundation for our country, and preventing a second Great Depression
The Affordable Care Act........
Reforms..our country’s broken health care system by holding insurance companies accountable, lowering costs, ensuring greater choice, and improving the quality of care for all Americans
Great Job Mr. President !
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Looks like a mass obama email.
I didn't know what to expect when I clicked on this thread title, but I figured list of Obama's "accomplishments" would look somehing like this:
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01-02-2011, 03:27 PM
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Isn't it wonderful, and this is only part of what has been accomplished. I just hope that the republicans don't try to do away with Social Security, Disability, Medicare and the other programs that help the American people, like they have threatened to do.
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01-02-2011, 03:37 PM
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Re: President Obama
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Isn't it wonderful, and this is only part of what has been accomplished. I just hope that the republicans don't try to do away with Social Security, Disability, Medicare and the other programs that help the American people, like they have threatened to do.
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Don't forget this great accomplishment by the most radical abortion president we've ever had:
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President Obama signed an executive order today reversing the ban that prohibits funding to international family planning groups that provide abortions, as first reported by ABC News.
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So, now instead of funds being diverted to...let's say, "disability payments" they can be used to support international funding to abortions.
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01-02-2011, 04:30 PM
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Re: President Obama
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Originally Posted by Seascapes
I do not look down on a baby that was conceived in rape, I am not carrying it. By the way you are not either. It is the woman that is carrying the baby should have the right to feel anyway she does. She is the one that was raped.
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What is it about "Thou shalt not kill" that people don't understand.
Liberals always play the "rights" card.
No one of course has the right to murder.
Abortion is sin and there is no way around it in the bible.
God disciplines israel when the men did what was right in their own eyes.
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01-02-2011, 05:18 PM
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First of all Obama did not "do" all those. Don't forget our government is not a dictatorship.
Doing a lot of stuff does not mean all that was done are good things. I can see there are a lot of things on that list that are good, but not everyone will agree they are all good
Supreme Court Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan
President Obama nominated and the Senate confirmed Associate Justices..Sonia Sotomayor..and..Elena Kagan..to the Supreme Court.. ....
Certainly not everyone agrees Kagan was a great choice.
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01-02-2011, 07:38 PM
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Re: President Obama
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I do not look down on a baby that was conceived in rape, I am not carrying it. By the way you are not either. It is the woman that is carrying the baby should have the right to feel anyway she does. She is the one that was raped.
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RAPE!!
Lies about rape'
When libs start talking about abortion they start lying. The devils is in the middle of death and lies.
In Roe vs Wade, the young woman lied about being raped and and getting an abortion.
She had her baby and put the baby up for adoption. It was not rape and she did lie to the court. I know we need to remind libs about lying to get their way.
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01-02-2011, 07:47 PM
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Re: President Obama
President Obama's record of success
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