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12-10-2010, 11:56 AM
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Re: Should This Baby Die?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Nope. The 13 year old girl who died in California debunks your myth that there are "several paths open" for recourse when your insurance company denies you a life saving surgery.
Apparently, this family did not have medical insurance at all.
If so, the Healthcare Reform Act is supposed to help people without insurance so that they have insurance.
Maybe Indiana hasn't been able to or haven't allowed the "changes" to happen at the state level that would benefit this family. |
Anything is available. the bottom line is whether it's cost effective for the masses.
We have technology to produce jets that would never ever crash... but most Americans could never afford a ticket.
Should the Bill Gates types pay the difference? If not, why? Don't you "care" about the hundreds- even thousands of innocent people dieing undeservedly every year?
We could have the quality of healthcare the President of the US receives for a price...
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12-10-2010, 12:09 PM
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Re: Should This Baby Die?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Nope. The 13 year old girl who died in California debunks your myth that there are "several paths open" for recourse when your insurance company denies you a life saving surgery.
Apparently, this family did not have medical insurance at all.
If so, the Healthcare Reform Act is supposed to help people without insurance so that they have insurance.
Maybe Indiana hasn't been able to or haven't allowed the "changes" to happen at the state level that would benefit this family. |
JD - I have personal experience at working with private insurance companies on denials. It is not a fun process but you will eventually win almost 100% of the time.
I have a situation right now, with someone who works for my company, that is this way. He was diagnosed 3 years ago with cancer and given 6 months.
His treatment has been stopped at least 3-4 times because insurance said that it was non-effective. He has had very good success working with his patient advocate to get these resumed, every time.
Private insurance companies do not want to go to court on these issues, so they will eventually cave. Unless every medical expert you can find agrees with them.
There is not not same recourse with the government.
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12-10-2010, 12:15 PM
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Re: Should This Baby Die?
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
The beauty of it is they live in a country where the surgery will still likely happen. We have a free press that has now advertised the baby's plight and individuals a medical aid organizations are now made aware of the need and the fund that has been set up.
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 And this is how it SHOULD work. The media (and some members of our government) would like the masses to believe that there is no individual or even group goodwill, and that they must depend on government measures to have good things happen in their life. It's simply untrue, and the liberty we have in this country ALLOWS individuals to act charitably; not because the government informed some doctor that he would have to perform the surgery at half price or pro bono.
Only a monster would answer "Yes." to the question "Should this baby die?" That question is a straw man intended to avert attention from the real issue at hand: How Government Health Care is a Failure.
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12-10-2010, 12:18 PM
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Re: Should This Baby Die?
Arizona has done the same thing in some cases with transplants mostly.
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