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12-07-2010, 06:34 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Wow, and was the person healed?
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Do you think that matters to its relevancy of being false or true?
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12-07-2010, 06:37 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Do you think that matters to its relevancy of being false or true?
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If it is purported to be the reason, yes.
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12-07-2010, 06:40 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Wow, and was the person healed?
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No.
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12-07-2010, 06:40 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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If it is purported to be the reason, yes.
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So if someone can claim healing, that is enough to substantiate doctrine?
If that is your standard for determining biblical truths, then I'd be going to great pains of proving this healing. A man come out of a lifetime of paralysis? A blind man seeing? A man with an amputed leg growing back? Medical records? Understanding the condition. No lukewarm, could-go-either-way bologna
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12-07-2010, 06:52 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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So if someone can claim healing, that is enough to substantiate doctrine?
If that is your standard for determining biblical truths, then I'd be going to great pains of proving this healing. A man come out of a lifetime of paralysis? A blind man seeing? A man with an amputed leg growing back? Medical records? Understanding the condition. No lukewarm, could-go-either-way bologna
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No, just the opposite. The reasoning as I understand it for the practice is. That if someone lays their hair on a sick person, they will be healed. I was just wondering if anyone had actually seen this done, and the person be healed.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-07-2010, 08:43 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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I can picture it now. Ensey rushing to the publish the kudos from Daniel on his blog !!!!!!!
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He's going to make it on mine ....
He's officially published ....
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12-07-2010, 09:24 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Question:
Was at a meeting just recently, and heard LS teach "the order of creation" I got a very brief chance to ask him about HMH, he said he doesn't teach HMH, and that he mentioned that he doesnt teach it. In his message he said that if God uses it, it doesnt make it magic. Like Mud, cloths, pools, ect.. I dont know what to think, but HMH is really out there, I dont see anyone supporting that doctrine.
What say ye?????
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Amazing that even though we have an example of miracles being tied to spit, mud, clothes, pools, we don't practice these things today, we teach on laying of hair; which is never spoken of in the bible, nor even referenced in the slightest way. ( 1 Cor 11:10 doesn't count)
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12-07-2010, 09:26 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Your site crashed! Must be some interest eh?
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12-07-2010, 11:07 PM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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Originally Posted by Justin
Amazing that even though we have an example of miracles being tied to spit, mud, clothes, pools, we don't practice these things today, we teach on laying of hair; which is never spoken of in the bible, nor even referenced in the slightest way. ( 1 Cor 11:10 doesn't count)
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I have heard of people using those things, and seen it too..
I know good people that don't connect themselves with the HMH but do not cut their hair, they are not saying ladies are going to hell if they cut their hair yet they do think it is important and apart of their consecration to God.. where do they fit in this whole process of thinking?
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12-08-2010, 12:19 AM
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Re: JR Ensey Chimes in on Hair Laying: Dec. 2010
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I have heard of people using those things, and seen it too..
I know good people that don't connect themselves with the HMH but do not cut their hair, they are not saying ladies are going to hell if they cut their hair yet they do think it is important and apart of their consecration to God.. where do they fit in this whole process of thinking?
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If they do it as a discipline or consecration, wonderful. That's a slim minority I'd imagine.
But HMH suggest, like other false biblical doctrines, that we can do enough to earn God's goodness or satisfy God's demands. The Gospel importance of Jesus is somehow missing. It's idolatry in that context.
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